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SneachtaPix [2010-03-16 20:39:51 +0000 UTC]

Very interesting processing !

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DocSonian In reply to SneachtaPix [2010-03-17 01:13:33 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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SneachtaPix In reply to DocSonian [2010-03-17 08:38:22 +0000 UTC]

Very welcome

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Markus43 [2010-03-12 17:00:28 +0000 UTC]

absolutely wonderful

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DocSonian In reply to Markus43 [2010-03-14 03:18:25 +0000 UTC]

many thanks
a cool old building that often to me looks fake like a movie set

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SLPdomain [2009-07-25 01:13:46 +0000 UTC]

there were no messages sent on Telegraph Avenue
it was a void haunt of memories
neither real nor planted
but harvested from immigrants who never traveled.
pod beings lurking out windows
living vicariously
through the passersby
who favored this route
there were no messages sent
on telegraph avenue
folks had forgotten how
to write
forgotten who to write to
forgotten who they were
stop

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-25 22:05:53 +0000 UTC]

but still in the walls
when they redid the building
old bottles were found with messages

once a gal drank a night away with one of those bottles
read stories to everyone she wrote in the woods
while looking for John Muir.
She found him high atop old Mt Whitney,
drinking a beer, smoking a pipe and jotting
down notes about bottles he found in the river

Telegraph Avenue the way we will never see

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-26 02:15:41 +0000 UTC]

--------------------------------------------------------.

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Izaaaaa [2009-07-20 00:46:35 +0000 UTC]

crazy good

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DocSonian In reply to Izaaaaa [2009-07-20 15:01:58 +0000 UTC]

crazy is the intent, and also something that looks like a blown up cartoon, pieced together again
thanks

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SLPdomain [2009-07-10 06:01:13 +0000 UTC]

gutter tales
never let ya know
whether u'll ride
up or down

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-15 00:35:33 +0000 UTC]

the message is in the bottle,
and the rattles come from the snake

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-16 05:19:15 +0000 UTC]

wisely spoken my son.

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-20 23:16:08 +0000 UTC]

and the balance you have to have when the snake strikes

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SLPdomain [2009-07-10 05:59:03 +0000 UTC]

i skated
ice skating
eyes skate
to pass
this--
haunting corner
not pleasant
avenue
not now
hells kitchen
brews the taunt
that slid
steve
to delusions
while
i skated
on ice

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-15 00:37:05 +0000 UTC]

Landskate
across the land
being a 3rd wheel.
nothing left to steal
live in the woods

light the candle
a memorable night

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-16 05:20:47 +0000 UTC]

the ages
ride 3 wheels
it aint bad
less hassle
easier to pause

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-20 23:26:56 +0000 UTC]

I always thought the pause button cool
when they invented that
before you had to start over

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-24 04:48:36 +0000 UTC]

ha...
stop
at least for some
stop
transmission errors
stop stop steep step

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-24 21:29:38 +0000 UTC]

stop often was the end
of that
moment

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-25 01:00:34 +0000 UTC]

transmission of telegraph has encountered an error

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-25 21:22:35 +0000 UTC]

and some sort of electrical short in the fuse

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SLPdomain [2009-07-10 05:56:16 +0000 UTC]

this looks like NY
a curtain slightly opened
whats new is lodged
on corners
selling darkness
while
slivers of ice
cut
surfaces--collide
new shadows
provide escape
hints release
on the roof top
a birds a view
of more
then seedy peddlers
pushing pass
the hollowing haunts
of yesterday
many years ago

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-15 00:41:33 +0000 UTC]

it has that vibe
and seedy peddlers for sure

a slice of a time that was down there


haunts
in the hallowed halls of memory

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-16 05:18:48 +0000 UTC]

still is --
relocated
off the hook
no longer red
bussed Upstate
i hear
and true be that
them
haunts in the fallow halls of memory

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-20 23:25:51 +0000 UTC]

it's just a like running into Donny And Marie
in a flop house in Bronx

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-24 04:51:05 +0000 UTC]

i laugh sometimes
stop
wondering
stop
how much either realizes
is true verbiage
stop
or not
stop
red hook
housing bussed to albany
buffalo
west florida

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-24 22:04:35 +0000 UTC]

stopping
is good

but not in Florida
there
you should just turn around and get back home

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-25 00:59:46 +0000 UTC]

a friend of mine said that south florida is filled with released psychiatric ward patients.
where else does one find folks riding a bike with a shark trying to sell its meat--giving up when declined and leaving the shark in the middle of the road.
i must say
there is a certain--strangeness about this experience...
i try to visit places that aren't on the overly developed realm of greedy northerners---and its an interesting place.
while i do not favor the bugs that seem to feast upon my sour blood--- the flora and fauna is amazing.
to me -florida represents the epitome of what greedy humans have done in pursuit of their own selfish interest. destroyed the natural order of things--sanctuary for wildlife---etc etc
i look forward to the day when iguanas and Seminoles live in peace...and birds are limited to man dugged ponds...but the swampy refuge of earlier days.
until then...
not sure where we'll end up...
a temporary hiatus in life with retired folks.

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-25 21:27:41 +0000 UTC]

have never been to Florida and after the 2000 election and all the crap connected with Florida on 911, Disneyplanet, etc etc
I choose to pass.
what man has done to this planet will never be undone

we ran wild like cowboys with cap guns for way too long
Bush and Cheney and their Nazicrew did a number on this country.
Just look what they did not do in Louisiana and Mississippi during and after Katrina
Criminal activities.
These guys just loved nature.

Hope is the pill we must take

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-26 02:18:45 +0000 UTC]

yet--its a pill we need to take daily.
*
did not choose this.
just aim to see beyond--------------.

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-27 00:23:24 +0000 UTC]

PIL
i get
Public Imagine
ha

I read up on them
never realized they lasted so long

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-24 04:46:43 +0000 UTC]

right on!

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-24 21:29:11 +0000 UTC]

that just came to me

I saw Johnny Rotten in a Office supply store,
we chatted
he was looking for file folders
I said
"What would Sid think?"
He snicked and said
"Blooming nut didn't know his arse from a hole in the ground."

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-25 01:08:06 +0000 UTC]

I saw a file on the sex pistols and couldn't believe I actually liked them--or that whole 'scene'
somethings--are taken too far overboard.
while i understand --the whole issue that drives some to such depths--
in hindsight
in proper sight
in sage sight
its all so silly--to waste ones life away
sure-- alterations to perception and emotions seemed right--then-but the repercussions aint worth it.
for sid and nancy it equated death.
but that was what they were aiming for.
i am just cranky happy to have survived--berlin.
no one ever said life was suppose to be easy...deal with it.
other wise --u find yourself
glamorizing Chelsea flea bagged hotel---and nicotine stained vision.
or walking the streets all numb
as if the energy around you is penetrating via an altercation in the dimension just left of sanity.
and in hells kitchen
more then eggs get fired...
go smell some flowers
before you retire.
*
johnny rotten marketed well
might have walked the walked
talk the talk
but in the end
he filed his ideals in coloured folders

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-25 22:12:36 +0000 UTC]

they were a highly over-rated band
more looks and flash, with little serious muisc
talent
but that was not the issue then really
the Ramones were better musically and had that look.
1...2....3...Hey ho ....lets go
but they were more lower east side where the Brits had it over us ...growing up in postwardepresssion of WW II
they had a reason to be more pissed off, especially at us Yanks

The Sex Pistols came at the right time to America
the doldrums of the 70s had hit and we were ripe for some nastiness. The talking heads and all the phony Blondie Cars new wavey shit was like bubble gum compared to the Pistols
Though i did like talking heads in their first years I must ay
but they were more art school than street
Sid Viscous with all his stuff, and the way he ended up
what a case
that one lp they did is listenable still
loud and nasty

but to think it is over 30 years old
makes punks almost as ancient as hippies

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-26 02:13:34 +0000 UTC]

who u calling ancient!...
*
i was at the concert when the pistols came PIL. and began behind a screen. The audience went ballistic they missed the whole point."The public image."
A friend from England said they laugh at the 'americans' for missing the point.
it was sort of sad---especially a new york audience. But it was at the ritz...and back then--that was sort of a commercial club.
But as far as NY Art music of that era...some of it was really good--like sonic youth when they first surfaced...and talking heads---i still think David Byrnes is cool.
I so dont like the whole 'image making' labeling that goes on with genres of music.
the best was when CBGBs housed the unknowns...and all got to write their names in the foyer.
its the managers and PRs that drive genius into molds of the populace approval...and once that happens--so few have the integrity to say--nope-i aint your little poster child for this or that.

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-27 00:21:41 +0000 UTC]

never
would i say that

I did like talking heads a lot
saw them quite a bit
Byrne to me lost it after awhile and his ego took over and the music suffered
CBGB was cool
things change
not always for the better
the scene changes
and many peel off
and new ones join in
the continuous twirl

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-28 04:41:23 +0000 UTC]

yet--
as much as things change
they stay the same
eoq
*
aww---hoping i'd get some acknowledgment for the whole trip iza on.
aint gold
going for silver streaks.

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-28 20:20:06 +0000 UTC]

true and then get worse


please explain all belowwww pleasseeee
and what is the symbol?///yoda
soorry...not sure i know the DA ropes like I should

aww---hoping i'd get some acknowledgment for the whole trip iza on.
aint gold
going for silver streaks.

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-28 20:45:07 +0000 UTC]

O---yoda--the jedi.
as to any other relevance via dA lingo--i wouldn't know.
I just like yoda.
as to other blah blah--just words placed next to each other with no particular order or reason...other then the passing thought that is now over my head.
been invited to give a solo exhibit in NY--Gershwin hotel --my ny holgas.
a month long exhibit in October.
wondering how i will pay for prints...and fear--somehow--i shall sabotage this--so i stay in nil ville.

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-29 22:30:30 +0000 UTC]

i enjoy how you place words
some good back and forth here
dig some of the new work
sense of blur gives exactness
nice

congrats on the show
yea....costs a bunch to actually get all
his imagery on the wall


get over that sabotage feel
find an inexpensive printer
lay the prints on rag board (4ply) and plexi or real
glass is all ya need.
Use those L shaped screw nails whatever they are
that's all you need
matting framing etc is over the top if you are cash tight
if ya need any help
just ask
I have doe my share of shows and hung my work with everything from pushpins to wayyy over the top expense frames

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-30 03:30:56 +0000 UTC]

I just hope its not a waste of funds.
I just hope i can actually sell something.
Its a really cool place--the Gershwin hotel in Chelsea.and the clientele is mostly from overseas.
it fames itself for being an art hotel--so-- what better souvenir then a limited edition print of NYC--that isn't a common view. I have yet seen anything similar.
though i have notice some folks here---emulating what i've done.
and it sort of urks me--not sure why...
maybe because--i lack the confidence to believe in myself--
while so many toot their horns--and are usually the ones who will receive the attention--
i have had thief of my ideas for a very long time...
maybe i should inflate my ego--and toot more.
I do think--objectively that my NY work--is right on.
especially my holgas--
*
do u think that if some of the images are 10 x 10---that that is ok?
*
i want to offer limited prints...so therefore i can set a higher price.
anyway---
october will be here before i know it--and well--i fear--the crtics eye

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-30 14:38:26 +0000 UTC]

well you can not look at exhibiting your work as a waste of dough,
it's what we do.
selling is important, it all depends on so many things
just show your work
do not worry about all this stuff
most stuff has been done already
or being done by someone
we all copy
we all get copied
part of the deal
there is always someone with more money willing to take an idea and really do something with it
have the connections etc
if you worry about that it will do not good

do the show
10" x 10" is cool
is that image size paper size
if so
then what is the border size
might as well start with that
if you go to the big photo galleries you will see the massive prints they show

limited edition print idea is good
but do not price the work out of contention to actually sell
most folk have no ideas about editions

get the work going.....show it
see what happens
I have done so many shows, i just see it as part of the deal

be excited that you are showing

have you showed much before?
I get the feeling not much
so if that is true
see this as an opportunity for more
don't look at this as end of all deals
nothing may happen
be prepared for that
something great may happen
just mellow the jello and do it
asn see what happens
it will be an experience i can tell you that
if you have not exhibited much

it's what we do

or


well some don't




'

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SLPdomain In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-31 18:23:40 +0000 UTC]

I'd like to have a little delusion that some work has never been done before--or at least not exactly.
then again---i like delusions of grandiose
*
I honestly have not copied nor saught to imitated or emulate another in my holgas...
in fact---rarely if ever--do i have in mind anothers work.
I think that is why i prefer an uneducated mind with regards to creativity.
it raw--virgin turf.
to learn in hindsight that ones work has the echoing of anothers--like Saul leither is a huge compliment--a validation of ones eye...mind ...soul.
I am not worried of the been done before factor
as i can say purely--i have no clue if it has.
I agree---there is no avant garde...only connections or good brown nosing.
*
The idea of others deciding on whether or not what i do is good or not-- well--with the holgas i am confident. and have a good eye on my town. So i aint worried about that...
mostly-- well--pragmatic perspective---perception --for me is foremost in my mind.
Its not easy to see beyond that --when-- you've not the funds to even care for needs.
So--if i can make some money out of what i love to do--then I am all for it.
*
i have showed once--one day---limited audience.
and that was my paintings. LOL
*
I am a serious critic...and mostly upon myself.
I do what comes naturally--- not calculated...so--exhibiting is well--something i thought to happen when i die.
not easy confronting face to face...
then again theres still two months for that...
just kidding.

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DocSonian In reply to SLPdomain [2009-08-01 02:05:17 +0000 UTC]

welll there is no delusion
you just do your work and not worry about that,
undoubtedly someone with the same equipment is doing something similar or whatever

the school/education vs non school/no know almost nothing
education vs oblivion
there are good things to both
the fact of the uneducated mind, just often falls into human nature like rubbing a stick to stone to get fire.
I had a buddy years ago that was a pretty good painter.
he painted in the abstract expressionist mode
his work looked like many of the well known painters of the 40s 50s but he had never heard of any of them.
he never studied any art history
knew nothing really about all that
I tried to tell him all this, that there would be a prob once he tried to show his work
it made no matter to him, though when people said his work was derivative of those AE painters, he really did not know what all that meant.
it was kind of weird for me who knew too much of all that crap.
It came off like student quality work.
I have not seen his work in years, we had a prob theat he went his way and i went as far as i could from his way
a bit too much pot, wine and hanging out for me.
so

never convince yourself what you don't know you will find,
what you don't know you may end up tumbling into by accident
or never experiencing
knowledge is power
the other is just welll not knowing

if you don't know sticking your finger in fire it will burn you,
does not mean you are better off.
another may lay their hand over fire to see how long they can stand it.
the other knows that fire burns and avoids the fire.
who is better off?

to burn or not to burn
that is the question
or to wait and fall into the flames thinking is water
maybe a bit of all three


all i am saying is

me thinks you worry about stuff that has nothing to do with what you are trying to do
you did not go the traditional photo school way
go your way happily and show your work and then do it again till they pry the damn camera pout of your cold dead fingers
ha
a bit of that nut at the end of his life Charlton Heston

but edit
edit
and then edit more

make it the creme of the crop
then edit more

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SLPdomain In reply to SLPdomain [2009-07-10 06:02:05 +0000 UTC]

a birds not a view
its to read
a birds eye view
to more

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CGiraldez [2009-07-10 02:01:58 +0000 UTC]

I have no words besides the clichΓ©: EXCELLENT !

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DocSonian In reply to CGiraldez [2009-07-10 03:40:42 +0000 UTC]

well cliche or not
greatly appreciated
this building breathes

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CGiraldez In reply to DocSonian [2009-07-10 14:40:48 +0000 UTC]

you are welcome !

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