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Jcbq [2012-01-01 03:48:24 +0000 UTC]
... Hm, I have a theory that is reversible for either... Details may vary for each story but I will wait until I get further information to validate it.
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Jcbq In reply to EdDarkflame [2012-01-01 17:19:35 +0000 UTC]
WeLl at first glance my theory stated that neither completely abandoned the teachings of Bahamut which still holds true, the only variation to my original theory came when I took a closer look. The lighter Alastor still holds Bahamut in higher regards but uses the powers of Tiamat to take out his Justified rage on to those who caused the genocidal actions against his people and in the process became the very thing that his clan feared, a dragon controlled by power.
The Darker Alastor I can figure two theoretical possibilities: 1.) That he indeed gained retribution in his world via Tiamat but learns that Avatar does not mean god. Only they can invoke the return of dragons. As such he walks the path of redemption from Bahamut. Or 2.) He begins his wrath but finds out that his love survives the assault they meet up and then he realizes how wrong he his. He does not seek redemption from the Platinum dragon as he feels that he's fallen to far, yet he will not completely bow to Tiamat, choosing the state between as his punishment for his sins in his world.
This is what I've came up with so far but its following Mulit-verse laws so its still up for grabs. Untill I have more to work off of that's what I'm sticking to
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EdDarkflame In reply to Jcbq [2012-01-01 23:29:24 +0000 UTC]
I'm kind of confused about your theories, even though seem to share some details with what I have in store. You would would have to explain further.
Also, I'm uncertain to which Allastors you refer to when you say "lighter" and "darker". Have in mind that the left most is the Mythril Dragon, the chosen one of Bahamut, and the one right behind him (2nd to left most) is Allastor Nightfire, who the Wrath, Tiamat's champion.
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Jcbq In reply to EdDarkflame [2012-01-02 03:38:47 +0000 UTC]
Ok so let me clarify:
My theories are based on the following: Allastor (the Mythril Dragon) is to the far left While Nightfire (Wrath) is on the far Right. The 'Lighter' one is the second one from the left while the 'Darker' one is the second from the right and that this was a total attack on Dragonkind throughout the multiverse.
Ideally the second from the left was in a world where his kind survived, not unlike Allastors (Mythril one; for future reference I'm going to call him M Allastor) however after they escaped this Allastor felt that the humans and dragons responsible needed to be punished. Going against some of the teachings of Bahamut and embracing a select few of Tiamat's to try and justify what he is about to begin. Once he began he then realized that it was not only his world that suffered the same fate and began to 'hop' between worlds; Slowly having his power control him.
While the Darker Allastor (Allastor #3) walked the path of Allastor Nightfire. Here is where I split the theories
Theory 1: He followed Tiamats teachings to the letter and completely destroyed humankind, making him the only sentient thing alive. It was then that he realized, only the gods themselves can enact the return of the dragons not their avatars. After reflecting on his actions he also realized that Bahamut was correct and in another world tries to amend his ways and redeem himself to the true Mrithril dragon.
Theory 2: He begins to walk the path to Tiamat wanting complete revenge for his kind. He does not realize that his love (or family, could be either) still lives and is trying to catch up with him before it is too late. After he had destroyed many would-be allies, they finally caught up with Allastor and in a mortified shock confronted him. It was then he realized that what he has done was wrong, believing that the Dragon of the north will not forgive him and allow him back into his teachings. He did, however, reject the teachings of Tiamat that he so devoutly followed and began again, unsure of what to do.
Well that was long winded...
Hope this helps!
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EdDarkflame In reply to Jcbq [2012-01-02 08:48:32 +0000 UTC]
Ok, I see it now, but I must correct something that seemed unclear: Allastor Nightfire (the Wrath) is the 2nd from left to right. The two 'new' Allastors are the two right most (#3 and #4). Also, none of the Allastors can follow some ideals from both Bahamut and Tiamat. That would mean they would loose the 'favor' of either or both deities, thus loosing their powers. Allastor Nighfire, for instance, gave up on Bahamut's teachings and chose the path revenge and hate, towards humans and some of the dragons that made his life in living hell and further loneliness, and Tiamat sought an opportunity to make this fallen Allastor her champion to oppose the Mythril Dragon (You may want to check this [link] ).
However, it's impressive how close your 1st theory on "Darker Allastor" (3rd one) is to what happened to that same Allastor, except Bahamut and Tiamat have no influence on him. The 4th Allastor is nothing close to the rest of them, but its certainly something very dark, and that you probably don't expect
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Jcbq In reply to EdDarkflame [2012-01-03 23:08:01 +0000 UTC]
I see...
But if neither the queen or king have any influence on them then is it safe to assume that another member of the pantheon is? (If that is the fact I have an idea...)
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dragonstorm64 [2011-12-29 07:29:46 +0000 UTC]
Interesting idea, everyone does the "good" and "evil" versions of Multiverse, but very few explore the many shades of grey inbetween.
Neat pic!!!
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ZealotCrusader In reply to EdDarkflame [2011-12-30 03:32:41 +0000 UTC]
It'sa Japanese Power Metal band called "X", but outside of Japan, is known as "X Japan", because another band named "X" already existed in Great Britain (a Punk band to be sure). This particular track is the opening cut from the album "Jealousy" released in 1991.
This band is a big influence on the sound of Dragonforce, but this is a little misleading since X Japan has always been more diverse than your average Speed Metal band. They also pioneered a genre in Japan (with an accompanying fashion trend) called "Visual Kei", which could be looked upon as Power Metal with the looks of extreme Hair Metal/Glam Rock.
That's about all I can tell you of relevance. Everything else is unimportant unless you like pointless details. The guitar player "Hide" committed suicide in 1998, which basically spelled the end for the band, although they did reunite recently for a soundtrack appearance (Saw IV). Happy Hunting!
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EdDarkflame In reply to ZealotCrusader [2011-12-30 17:50:55 +0000 UTC]
Wow. That's awesome, except for the guitar player committing suicide, of course.
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biocoal [2011-12-28 22:46:46 +0000 UTC]
Amazing, this is truly stunning.
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biocoal In reply to EdDarkflame [2011-12-29 00:52:47 +0000 UTC]
No problem, I hope I get to see more of this.
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Letdragon [2011-12-28 22:30:14 +0000 UTC]
A vengeful dragon is...very terrifying.
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EdDarkflame In reply to Letdragon [2011-12-28 22:39:47 +0000 UTC]
Mmhm. It's how bad Nightfire is.
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omegaman255 [2011-12-28 21:59:57 +0000 UTC]
hmm, well if what your implying here is that the last two are the extremist of the "Allastor's" then most likely they are the purest embodiment of good and evil.
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omegaman255 In reply to EdDarkflame [2012-01-02 04:26:51 +0000 UTC]
wait, there's more of these guy's? then again I suppose this alternate reality's/universes come alternate Allastors, the possibilities never end. I just hope there's no-AH D@MN IT!! I HAD SOMETHING WITTY TO SAY!!! IHADITIHADITIHADIT!!!!!!!!!!!
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omegaman255 In reply to EdDarkflame [2012-01-03 01:47:36 +0000 UTC]
I GOT IT!! FINALY after smacking my head against the wall for the past 24 hours I GOT IT!! *inhales deeply*....muffin button.....NOOOO!!!! *smashes head into desk* [link]
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BardTherony [2011-12-28 21:59:37 +0000 UTC]
personally...I would think the middle two would be the anti-hero types.
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EdDarkflame In reply to BardTherony [2011-12-28 22:13:33 +0000 UTC]
Actually, the middle-left one is Allastor Nightfire. So, you have Allastor Darkflame (the Mythril Dragon), Allastor Nightfire (The Ebon Wrath), and two more "replicas" behind them.
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BardTherony In reply to EdDarkflame [2011-12-28 22:21:44 +0000 UTC]
so its two and 4 that's the alternates... well I would be right on one...and shudder on the other.
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