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CrimsonCommande [2017-11-01 22:26:07 +0000 UTC]
Ahh guppie these are absolutely amazing! I always love your Lisa Frank inspired designs they are just gorgeous.
As for your extremely misinformed hater, just ignore her. I'm not citing her age as an excuse but she's listed herself on dA as only being 14 so I'm going to go with she's not very experienced in the ways of copyrighting, what is considered copyrighting, and laws that go with copyrighting. Some people just have a personality where they refuse to believe what they think may be incorrect and instead of taking time to properly inform themselves through research they continue to insist on why they are correct despite logical discussions and proof given by others.
Don't let other people's negativity and rudeness bring you down, you're amazing and so is your art!!
Love ya for you Guppie!!
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to CrimsonCommande [2017-11-01 23:09:43 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much and happy you enjoy my works so much. She and I both noted the LF offical FB page so let's see what happens.
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TheDreamerReality [2017-11-01 21:56:49 +0000 UTC]
My sincerest apologies for that b!tch below, insulting your hard work as if she owns the world. Everyone knows you work very hard on making Xynthiis and this irresponsible son-of-a-gun is just stirring up unneeded conflict. Unless she legitimately knows the law/is a lawyer, she's just puking bull.
Hope you can sort this out <3
btw, I lowkey love 1! So pretty but I can't buy her ; v ;
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to TheDreamerReality [2017-11-01 22:14:03 +0000 UTC]
I don't want her to be called by negative things though, I do not want any kind of negativity on my page and such. After the characters are all paid and closed just as regularry will disable comments. (I disable comments even if nothing exciting happens)
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TheDreamerReality In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 22:51:13 +0000 UTC]
Understandable, I apologise if I used any language that offended you.
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to TheDreamerReality [2017-11-01 23:09:09 +0000 UTC]
Not offended me I just not want anymore oil poured on the fire which was generated here.
I messaged the LF page to see how they feel about my work and also they said they messaged her.
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Meaghalovania In reply to TheDreamerReality [2017-11-01 22:11:10 +0000 UTC]
Hah. I was explaining how she can't use Lisa Frank's name in the title without getting a permission to use her style and nake to market her drawings. Lmao you really think that I said her art wasnt good and that I didn't think it was nice? I'm saying from a legal standpoint that she shouldn't be doing that.
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hisironicprincess [2017-11-01 19:56:57 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry, this person is so misinformed. That's like saying family guy can't exist because it was 'inspired' by the Simpsons. Or in turn the Simpsons can't exist for being inspired for the Flintstones. Not only that, those laws would only be applicable if Lisa herself had an issue, not some random person on the internet. I really doubt that she would care about another artist being inspired by her work? Not only that this falls under the fair use act, Guppie isn't harming Lisa's name or business, she isn't making money off Lisa's explicit work ie reselling Lisa Frank designs on bags, and she isn't claiming to be using official work. She's making profit off her own work and in order for a copyright claim to be valid you need to be able to be prove a piece is roughly 60% the same as the original.
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Meaghalovania In reply to hisironicprincess [2017-11-01 22:12:22 +0000 UTC]
Hah. I was explaining how she can't use Lisa Frank's name in the title without getting a permission to use her style and nake to market her drawings. Lmao you really think that I said her art wasnt good and that I didn't think it was nice? I'm saying from a legal standpoint that she shouldn't be doing that. It's name targetting, you can't use a name you don't own and make profit from it without legal permission. 😁😁 and see how I linked websites? Honey, I found a legal standpoint.
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to hisironicprincess [2017-11-01 20:01:58 +0000 UTC]
Yes. Like me as a Xynthii admin can't do much with tootheye characters inspired by Xynthiis. Oh wait 90% of the other tootheye CS what started to pop out in early 2016 not even claimed Barbie as an inspiration yet we couldn't do much against it.
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hisironicprincess In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 20:44:16 +0000 UTC]
how do people think sites like gaiaonline get away with making exact copies of characters outfits?
they claim fair use ://
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cthonicsquid [2017-11-01 19:17:57 +0000 UTC]
im too tired to get into fights but im confused at why that person is trying to insist what youre doing is illegal..... you clearly say inspired and even link the images theyre inspired by, why shouldnt you give credit where its due? these look different enough from the images and clearly have your own unique style here. seeing them comment spam is really frustrating because i dont think they actually understand what theyre talking about JKHFDGKJSHGJ
itd be different if it was lisa frank xynthiis but youre very clear shes just.... inspiration.....
hope everything ends well with that guppie! im not into xyns anymore but these are very cute owob <3
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to cthonicsquid [2017-11-01 19:52:33 +0000 UTC]
I am not open to have public fights and drama with anyone. People can try but I am chose to stay drama free and in case someone have an issue they can contact me privately anytime.
However I think I not crossed the line with my inspired designs. Like there are a lot of Pokemon inspired gijinka adopts popping out and they clearly say it's a humanoid version inspired only by Pikachu's aesthetics and not claim to be the real exact Pikachu character. Like not even the anathomy is the same?
Only those characters are copyrighted only and you can't copyright stuff like yellow skin color , blonde hair. Such as with Xynthiis people could do the Xynthii-inspired only teetheye non-CS. According to law we ,Xyn adminds couldnt do legal acts against the offbrand tootheyes or other teetheye CS. We couldn't close traits yes just the designs itself and the brand name.
So as long as people say it's a non-CS tootheye INSPIRED by Xynthii closed species only and NOT part of the closed species officially at all it's all legal and okay! and I say this as a Xynthii admin..
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Meaghalovania In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 22:15:33 +0000 UTC]
And becayse you give permission for someone to use aesthetics or inspired by when selling or creating doesn't mean a real company will. Your closed species is YOUR closed species becayse you dont want others profiting from what you have created yourself or using the name yo gain themselves fame, no?
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 22:21:49 +0000 UTC]
I am 99% sure what i do is not illegal at all and nobody could sue me for saying I was INSPIRED by Lisa Frank's aeshetics and openly saying out in the title and such how I was inspired by another artist.
I will contact the official FaceBook platform of the Lisa Frank brand and ask how they feel about this to end this conversation.
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Meaghalovania In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 22:52:58 +0000 UTC]
And no, no they can't sue you for being inspired but they can sue you for making a profit from their use of name.
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Meaghalovania In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 22:52:16 +0000 UTC]
I already have contacted their Facebook. Don't worry, I'll link you to the conversation afterwards.
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Meaghalovania In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 22:13:52 +0000 UTC]
Not true. You can say it's inspired yes, but you can not make a profit from their name without giving Lisa a percentage of profit. Read around, lmao. Also, read what i linked you.
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xCHERRYBOMBZx [2017-11-01 19:14:57 +0000 UTC]
My my. What lovely creations you have come up with again.
I just love all of these lisa frank inspired babes.
I was so obsessed with lisa frank growing up, and Im always so happy to see these floating around here.
Keep up the good work hun~
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to xCHERRYBOMBZx [2017-11-01 19:55:13 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much, well sadly LF was not part of my childhood as someone from a post communist country . Glad you like these.
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xCHERRYBOMBZx In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 19:56:02 +0000 UTC]
Aw Im so sorry to know that. u.u
At least you can learn and love it now though~
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Umi-Chann [2017-11-01 19:08:51 +0000 UTC]
Lord! they look so cute! OMG Q//U//Q
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Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 18:43:11 +0000 UTC]
I don't think you can use the name lisa frank without tagging the rightful creator of lisa frank herself and sell them.
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 18:51:56 +0000 UTC]
I absolutely tagged the illustrations what inspired me & added to the title it's "Lisa Frank inspired" .
I never claimed to be a part of her brand or be Lisa Frank herself at all. I do never copied any of her illustrations like I seriously think my designs are totally just inspired by the 90s-rainbow-glitter-Lisa Frankish aesthetics but nothing more.
Like the Lisa Frank alien is all bald, the outfit is way different ,they have 2 eyes, no handmouth tongues, no cuff spikes, no halos, the outfit is absolutely different too.
The husky inspired character only have the tail the same and tbh it's a dog and my design is a Xynthii which is a closed species by ObsceneBarbie.
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Meaghalovania In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 18:58:57 +0000 UTC]
Copyright for derivative works applies only to the creativity that has been added to the original. For example, let's say you draw some fanart of Pikachu from Pokemon. You didn't use any of Nintendo's official Pikachu art in your drawing, and you interpreted Pikachu into your own unique style. This fanart counts as a derivative work instead of a copy, because you have made significant creative changes to the original character. This means that the fanart you have drawn is copyrighted to you. However, you did not create Pikachu and so you do not own the copyrights to Pikachu used in your drawing. Technically speaking, this means the very existence of your fanart is infringing on copyrights, because you have used a style that you do not own and do not have permission to use. More so, this also means the selling and reproduction of this fanart would further infringe on Nintendo's copyrights. You may not use her name to market your business online. And if it's not lisa frank, then don't use her name.
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Chisai-Yokai In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 22:08:27 +0000 UTC]
The major problem with your argument is the fact that the two characters above are not derivative of the characters that inspired Guppie. Like you said, derivative would be taking pikachu and drawing him in your own style. Guppie did not draw the Lisa Frank characters in her own style. These are not Lisa Frank characters. They are not in Lisa Franks style. They are merely inspired by the rainbow look and anyone can paint anything with rainbow colors.
Additionally mentioning that your work is inspired by another artist is not illegal and is actually very common. I can paint something and say I was inspired by Van Gogh and then proceed to sell the painting I just created. There is nothing wrong with that, in fact it's incredibly normal in the art world.
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 19:47:22 +0000 UTC]
In case there is an issue Lisa Frank+her lawyer can contact me + my lawyer. If it's about law I am only open to listen to officially certificaed lawyers and experts. In case you are I am sorry and please contact me privately with your proof of being a registered lawyer or expert with an University degree.
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Meaghalovania In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 20:16:35 +0000 UTC]
Lmao okay, sorry you can't take critisism about your art and how you're selling it and how it's illegal. Someone who is making as much money as you per character should be open to stuff like that, but okay. Reply to this when you have a conscience or proof of wanting one^
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TheDreamerReality In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 21:49:27 +0000 UTC]
Sweetheart, work on your manners. Guppie is a very dedicated and talented artist, and she deserves every bit of respect that she has earned. If you have no dignity, please, just leave. You have no right to meddle in business that isn't yours.
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MERMAIDB0NES In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 20:23:42 +0000 UTC]
You've said your piece, it's time to move on.
Your message has been heard and you've received a reply.
Since you have no legal standing to speak for Lisa Frank or her brand, drop it. All you're doing is acting like a childish pest who's trolling to get a rise out of someone. If it were up to me, I'd have you blocked to spare Guppie all of this unnecessary bull.
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vaultippi In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 19:26:45 +0000 UTC]
????????
your arguement doesn't make sense, dear. They aren't copying the actual characters, they're taking the Lisa Frank characters and taking inspiration from the characters themselves. Guppie is implementing colors and style from Lisa Frank characters and putting them into a closed species that's totally unrelated to Lisa Frank.
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Meaghalovania In reply to vaultippi [2017-11-01 20:15:33 +0000 UTC]
You can't sell a character for profit without the proper permission, just an FYI.
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Danielle-chan In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-02 00:02:36 +0000 UTC]
You can if they're not the same design. She's not claiming to sell and of Lisa Frank's characters, it's mostly just a way of categorizing them, they're bright colorful and they look like something Lisa Frank would probably love or draw herself, it's not saying they're hers.
What you are attempting to say she's doing is nothing at all like what Guppie is actually doing.
You literally just seem like you're trying to start drama.
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Meaghalovania In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 18:45:32 +0000 UTC]
www.plagiarismtoday.com/2010/0…
states that the creators have no problem with fan art, but that doesn't cover the fact that you're selling a character with someone else's name in the marketing that came up with the style that you are trying to sell.
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Meaghalovania In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 18:53:10 +0000 UTC]
You need to get permission from the original artist to use their style or their characters if you want to sell these LEGALLY. I bet Lisa Frank would have no problem doing so, but you should not be making a profit off of a name brand to bring people into buying your characters. You can sell these easily without the name and the infliction on the legal matter with using her name without her permission to make a profit. I hope you would know that Lisa Frank is a copyrighted style, even inspired is bypassing that copyright.
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Umi-Chann In reply to Meaghalovania [2017-11-01 19:10:53 +0000 UTC]
instead of spamming, make 1 commented?
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Meaghalovania In reply to Umi-Chann [2017-11-01 19:15:09 +0000 UTC]
I kept finding more information as I kept searching, my bad, lass.
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XenoBaby [2017-11-01 18:36:04 +0000 UTC]
Aw nooo I’d claim the 1st one but I won’t get paid until Friday >.< these are perfect. I just realized 2 was the husky one so sad I was gonna get a custom based on him. I’ll find something else >.<
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to XenoBaby [2017-11-01 18:39:32 +0000 UTC]
I am absolutely okay to hold it for you until Friday, it's just 2 days and you are a reliable and loyal client of mine who had purchased before from me .
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XenoBaby In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 18:40:43 +0000 UTC]
I’d love to get her. I would have loved to get 2 since I was gonna get a custom based on the husky from you anyway.
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to XenoBaby [2017-11-01 18:54:33 +0000 UTC]
Okok I think you know my PayPal ~ send when you are ready pls
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XenoBaby In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 18:57:31 +0000 UTC]
Oki ur cool with me sending it on Friday right? If I get it sooner I’ll send it quicker
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Guppie-Vibes In reply to XenoBaby [2017-11-01 19:54:07 +0000 UTC]
yes I am totally cool with that ~
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XenoBaby In reply to Guppie-Vibes [2017-11-01 19:55:07 +0000 UTC]
sweet sauce! Also I'm sorry about the drama going on. Clearly they have nothing better to do >.>
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