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Description NEW REFS! this is my legal response [link]

He's two now
i think i have a new favorite horse!

Registered Name: RWS Everlasting Light
Barn Name: Savior
Breed: Thoroughbred
Gender: Stallion
Age: 2
Height: 16hh
Color: Chocolate Palomino
Sire: Dane's Augastino Blues
Dam: Fall Into Place
Bloodline: 2nd Generation
Genotype: ee/aa/nCr

Personality: Savior is a love bug. He's just a giant ham. He thinks he's a human and he acts like a bombproof gelding. He got his mother's calm and gentle disposition and his fathers speed and strength. He's incredibly fast and LOVES to work.
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Comments: 48

YamiKatt [2010-12-20 01:20:25 +0000 UTC]

Just so you know, his colour genetics are incorrect: it should be ee/aa/CRcr, since the palomino coat colour is created by the presence of one Cream modifier on a red (chestnut) base coat.

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labsbykibam In reply to YamiKatt [2010-12-20 01:25:05 +0000 UTC]

crap!
i know that, thankyou but i forgot about the cream xD

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LosingMyTemper [2010-12-14 20:58:10 +0000 UTC]

oh id love to breed him to my best mare [link] temper

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labsbykibam In reply to LosingMyTemper [2010-12-14 20:59:31 +0000 UTC]

he's only two :3
not open yet

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LosingMyTemper In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-14 21:03:56 +0000 UTC]

when hes odler is what i ment X3 save me a spot?

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labsbykibam In reply to LosingMyTemper [2010-12-14 21:09:10 +0000 UTC]

sure :3

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LosingMyTemper In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-14 21:10:48 +0000 UTC]

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thunderjam1992 [2010-12-11 20:10:42 +0000 UTC]

I am sorry, but the silver allele is not possible in thoroughbreds, and we therefore cannot accept your application for #R-A-C-E .

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-11 20:20:23 +0000 UTC]

really?
oh, well then he's just an unrealistic one
but i thought palominos carried silver?

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thunderjam1992 In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-11 21:26:29 +0000 UTC]

I'm afraid not. The silver allele (nZ) is a modifier all it's own and has no connection to the creme allele (nCr) which causes palominos. Thoroughbreds cannot carry the silver allele.

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 01:00:13 +0000 UTC]

i just thought of something
what if i made it a deep chocolate palomino instead?
thoroughbreds can be palomino, but idk what makes a chocolate palomino so is it possible in TBs?
it would explain his dark brown coat and light mane and tail
his sire was palomino so it would work

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thunderjam1992 In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 04:15:44 +0000 UTC]

Hypothetically, yes it's possible, but what people usually think of as a "chocolate palomino" and what an actual chocolate palomino look like are two completely different things.

There are 4 types of palominos depending on what chestnut base the creme allele sits on.

Light chestnut = cream palomino (A+_/ee/nCr, meaning chestnut on light/wild bay, which is somewhat rare) [link]
Red chestnut = golden palomino (AA/ee/nCr) [link]
Standard chestnut = seasonal/standard palomino (At_/ee/nCr, meaning chestnut on brown)
Liver chestnut = chocolate/sooty palomino (aa/ee/nCr, meaning chestnut on black) <-- not to be confused with the sooty allele which is nSty [link]

The golden palomino color is your "classic" palomino and is the most desired because of its bright golden coat and (usually) pale mane and tail.

The seasonal palomino is your standard palomino just as its base is the standard for chestnut. It's the most common. That being said, the name is quite confusing as most palominos are seasonal (meaning their coats look different in the summer and in the winter).

Finally, the chocolate/sooty palomino is not chocolate-colored at all. Rather, it looks more like the horse rolled in mud, especially when dappling takes place. It's actually quite an ugly color compared to the other palominos. (Here is an HARPG example.) They can be all shades of "dirty gold" depending on what shade of liver chestnut the base is, but are never a rich chocolate brown. Rather, more like a burnt golden brown, and are nearly always heavily dappled with lighter gold spots. Silver dapples are often confused with chocolate palomino because of the name, but are definitely not the same. It's a completely different allele (nZ).

(Just a little trivia, in case it helps: chestnuts, no matter how light or flaxen-maned, will always shine red or copper, while a palomino, no matter how dark, will always shine gold or silver.)

So yeah. I hope that helps clear things up.

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 04:23:00 +0000 UTC]

hmm
ok. it helps a lot actually
just trying to find a way to make him realistic without changing his color xD
any ideas? sorry if i'm being a pain

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thunderjam1992 In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 04:58:05 +0000 UTC]

It's ok. Honestly, the best way to make him realistic would be to change his breed. There is no way a thoroughbred could look like he does.

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 15:43:20 +0000 UTC]

ok, i tried making him a bit lighter and adding some dapples and such
i'm sorry if i'm bothering you, but i really want to make him realistic
does he look like a chocolate palomino?
if not i can try lightening him even more

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thunderjam1992 In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 21:27:49 +0000 UTC]

That is much better, yes. If possible, I suggest making his mane and tail a tad more cream-colored rather than the silver it is now, but that's not super necessary. Also, his markings scream sabino to me, so I suggest making him a chocolate palomino sabino. His genetics would then be ee/aa/nSb. (If you decide to not go the sabino route, his genetics should be ee/aa.)

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 23:00:06 +0000 UTC]

mkay
none of his parents carry sabino though, so i'll keep him normal
thankyou so much :3
i corrected his genotype
may i re-submit now?
thankyou for all your help!

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thunderjam1992 In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 23:41:31 +0000 UTC]

Yes you may.

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 23:42:10 +0000 UTC]

yay!
thankyou so much
you were a very big help
thanks for putting up with all my questions ^^

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thunderjam1992 In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 23:51:41 +0000 UTC]

Certainly. It's nice to know there are people out there willing to listen. Most these days just throw fits and do their own thing.

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 23:54:50 +0000 UTC]

oh i know the feeling. I'm always willing to listen, it's polite and i'd love to learn about as much about horses and horse genetics as possible.
I've been on howrse.com for about 1200 days, and i barely play on there anymore. If you even try explaining something to someone they throw a fit and swear, and it's stressful. I don't take stress well ^^'
i find HARPG to be much more relaxed, and it's a lot funner

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thunderjam1992 In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-13 00:36:28 +0000 UTC]

lol yeah.

If you ever need help with genetics, just let me know. I don't mind answering as long as you're willing to learn.

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-13 00:37:48 +0000 UTC]

ok :3 will do

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 05:05:44 +0000 UTC]

actually, i think i may make him look more like this
[link]
she's a pure tb, and is a palomino but she's pretty dark
i'll try and make his coat look more like that and see how it comes out

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 05:01:34 +0000 UTC]

ok
then he'll stay unrealistic then :3
thanks anyway

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labsbykibam In reply to thunderjam1992 [2010-12-12 00:45:01 +0000 UTC]

ohh. i c now :3
thanks for clarifying xD
i guess he'll just be an unrealistic TB then :3

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starlightpaths [2010-12-11 18:42:53 +0000 UTC]

hes beautiful!

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labsbykibam In reply to starlightpaths [2010-12-11 18:44:04 +0000 UTC]

thankyou :3

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starlightpaths In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-11 18:49:31 +0000 UTC]

youre very much welcome

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labsbykibam In reply to starlightpaths [2010-12-11 18:54:05 +0000 UTC]

^^

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Hidden-Acres [2010-12-11 18:07:03 +0000 UTC]

Awe so pretty :3

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-11 18:07:51 +0000 UTC]

thankyou
he's my baby ^^

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-11 18:10:20 +0000 UTC]

He's so adorbabled

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-11 18:11:04 +0000 UTC]

not only that, but he's already got a long story behind him

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-11 20:09:34 +0000 UTC]

Oh, Sounds interesting :3

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-11 20:20:35 +0000 UTC]

yup :3

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-11 20:29:34 +0000 UTC]

I can't wait to hear it.

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-11 20:49:54 +0000 UTC]

well he was born on the afternoon before the barn fire which killed his mom and 8 others. and he has markings like flames
here is teh story
[link]

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-11 20:57:33 +0000 UTC]

Such a touching story

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-12 00:47:12 +0000 UTC]

yeah, i hated the random number generator for a while after that.

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 00:48:12 +0000 UTC]

Oh xD you must of lost some of your best horses

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-12 00:49:28 +0000 UTC]

yup

i have an idea though that i want to put into action within the next month regarding a few of the horses :3

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 00:57:34 +0000 UTC]

Ohh that sounds awesome

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-12 00:59:44 +0000 UTC]

yup
i think i might even do that tonight, but i have no clue

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 01:15:32 +0000 UTC]

I guess whatever you feel like doing

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-12 01:19:53 +0000 UTC]

lol yeah

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Hidden-Acres In reply to labsbykibam [2010-12-12 01:22:31 +0000 UTC]

:3

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labsbykibam In reply to Hidden-Acres [2010-12-12 01:28:19 +0000 UTC]

xD

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