Fritters56 In reply to Mo0nX [2015-08-15 18:26:28 +0000 UTC]

Each of us has the power to feel the sun shine just on us, but some one has to empower us to see and feel it. I myself have seen too much damage done when no one with the power to allow you to see steps forward.

From the poetry of Carey A. Feazel

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Fritters56 In reply to MA-PHOTOGRAPHIC [2015-07-08 18:44:05 +0000 UTC]

I share a home with nine large Parrots, adventures are an every day affair around here, course catching pictures of any on it is very difficult indeed as several "Pose" every time they see a camera, while a couple of others attack it...lol

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MA-PHOTOGRAPHIC In reply to Fritters56 [2015-07-09 20:35:02 +0000 UTC]

lol good luck!!

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Fritters56 In reply to kongvmax [2015-07-07 03:13:42 +0000 UTC]

It is more or less a duty, I am not quite NSA, but feel people with real talent should be carefully watched and if possible contained with in my favorites folder. Some may think of it as high praise, but really it is incarceration...lol In your case I am  thinking 25 to life....lol I enjoy your work, keep it coming! 

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Fritters56 In reply to Mo0nX [2015-06-26 20:22:30 +0000 UTC]

Well, not knowing you, I didn't want to step on your toes or your ego.  I am known for seeing little details  that once I point them out you can't un-see them, not that I consider myself any bit of an expert....That was one fine render and nothing I pointed out detracted from it really, but one of the things you have to do in 3D is train you eye to see those little details, some you fix, some you cover over and then some you just have to live with....lol The muscle structure on the models we use do not attach to the bone structure, they sort of free float above them so getting an odd shape at a bend is very easy to do and sometimes very hard to work around or cover... I do what I do for one reason, to help and in hopes that if I over look something in my own renders that you will call me on it... I am here to be part of an artist community, one where we actually reach out and help one another and interact with one another, that is how one learns and I am here to learn.   I will be honest some of your work, flat out embarrasses me....lol I didn't think I was an old prude, but apparently I am....lol But that is art, pushing the boundaries and never standing still.  I had never even considered doing "sexy" things with men and treating them like sex objects, though I don't hesitate to do it with my female models. Keep up the good work I am loving it...

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Mo0nX In reply to Fritters56 [2015-06-27 10:57:29 +0000 UTC]

that is so well said
I couldn't thought it better than you did. You got a great mind my friend

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Fritters56 In reply to Mo0nX [2015-06-27 16:32:54 +0000 UTC]

Soon as I saw your work, I made it point to follow you and call you a friend, anyone that can show me human sensuality where I have never ever seen it before is worth keeping an eye on...lol    As a story teller I play and prey upon the hearts of people, I write and illustrate twists and turns, lead people down trails that climb and fall and end up no where just to trick them into taking a moment to feel an honest emotion.. I see all that and more in your work. Course it is not for unselfish reasons...LOL I see something in your work I can use in my own, provided of course I can butter you up enough to to be able to spend some time in your head...lol

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Mo0nX In reply to Fritters56 [2015-06-27 16:50:01 +0000 UTC]

nah no need to worry about the reasons. 
You are about right, I do try to get something unique in my works, the problem is that when I started to do 3D I had bigger ideals , more sketches in mind preapered to bring up . 
Truth is that in the atempt to bring them all out I lost myself on the path of learning how to improve myself.
I feel bad about that because I always wanted to be more than a hobbyst, I just never knew where to look but only this particular point about trying to create diferency by keeping my originality in the ideeas that I have.
P.s : sry for bad english , it's not my 1st leanguage

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Fritters56 In reply to Mo0nX [2015-06-28 02:40:25 +0000 UTC]

Well this is going to be fun, I make a lot of mistakes because my hands are partly numb, but at the same time painful. I type slow and yet my mind remembers me typing a lot faster so my mind keeps going and my hands fall behind and start skipping letters then whole words...lol Perhaps I should introduce myself. I have been working in poser since version 3, My claim to fame is having my art work on the cover of the program poser debut. I am far from the best poser artist but I like to think I am getting pretty good, yet I don't know, nor do I use the whole program. I have learned a trick or two and have gained some skill, which I freely share..

Problem is...You have to ask the right questions....Yes, that will be the problem.... First I have to determine what your skill level is when compared to mine. I can't offer advice or add to your knowledge base if you already know more then me....lol

My computers, my art work and my writing is my whole world, I am disabled and spend much of my time in a wheel chair. I am married, but my wife is just my nurse any more. I am pretty much a mind trapped in a body that is of less and less use.  Being of some use to any body brings a bit of sun shine into my life.  I play around in poser day in and day out, either that or write, that is when I able feeling well enough to do so.

I don't say this to ask for pity, I have had an adventuresome life with no regrets, I just want you to know just who and what you are speaking to and to know that while I can most likely help you along, I can't make you an expert in poser. I do offer what I can in the way of help and knowledge and I offer respect as a fellow artist. I write humor so I must warn you I will try to be funny as well...lol

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Mo0nX In reply to Fritters56 [2015-06-28 12:34:10 +0000 UTC]

i don't know what to say more . I wouldn't want to end up saying something wrong.
I don't need help in poser bcuz i don't use poser. I use other programs daz being one of them which is similar to poser but much easier.

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Fritters56 In reply to Mo0nX [2015-06-28 20:18:35 +0000 UTC]

We shall talk more as you post more work. Yea, I have the same worry. I have had real problems in the past. Lost a good friend here many years back. Had known him since high school, best buds and all that. He never was honest with me and never told me he thought of me as more then a friend and being hetro and apparently none too sensitive I always assumed we were just great friends. I went in the service and ran into him after getting out. We messed around together and then I showed up at one of our get togethers with my new girl friend, whom later I married. He got upset with me and I knew not why. Course I also didn't know his mother had just died after a long bout with cancer. Like I said he never felt he could be honest with me. I understand why now, he was afraid of my judgement. Any way he took his own life and I miss him still to this day, twenty years later.

So much I didn't know until after his death and so much I feel I should have done. It didn't help that he was a little guy and I was a star athlete and tended to be an athlete in every way, aggressive and very stupid.  I also didn't know some of the fellows I shared sports with where also Gay and that he had been treated badly by them as they were into weight lifting and taking steroids.

In many ways I still feel I am that big dumb athlete... I simply never realized he always saw me as something much more as a friend and I never saw him as anything but a really great friend. We now have several gay relatives in my family and always there is this wall between us that neither seems to be able to breach. I grew up with these relatives, I played and rough housed with them. I know their pain, I have seen how they have suffered over the years for something that is not their fault, yet there is that invisible wall that I feel helpless to breach...

Any way I have used daz studio in the past and invested heavily in daz studio version 3. Then in version 4 they changed everything, everything I had purchased for version 3 was not compatible with version 4, I got mad after investing so much money in the program I never have gone back and most likely never will. I won't even buy from daz much any more.  I plan to keep an eye on your work at any rate and while keeping in mind that you work in daz I shall endeavor to be helpful if I can..

Talk at you later.....

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Mo0nX In reply to Fritters56 [2015-06-28 21:01:12 +0000 UTC]

oh my , I do get what you mean, I couldn't stand losing my content either...considering there's a lot of content that I have.
It's not true that many stuff from 3 are not compatible anymore with 4, there's still a lot of stuff working and I have a friend which can confirms it ,yet if u learn 3D deeper u can make stuff work into any program regardless of their age.
Some of my stuff I do are not 100% related on daz, I import from other programs or export in order to achieve a closer to real look .
Anyway there's much to say on that chapter and I'm affraid I dont have the patience to list it all down .

Oh and about your friend, I'm really sry to hear that, if it makes u feel any better I have a friend which didn't even finished primary school, as I was going through life I lost the contact with him , years later after i finished highschool I managed to estabilish contact with him again, he doesnt work and live on his mom's back, he loves playing games and watching animes...however he doesnt know Im gay nor I will ever told him as I dnt think he will unerstand...altough the point of all this was to tell you that he keeps telling me he has no reason to live in this cruel world anymore...I however chose to ignore such words even thou he showed sign of wanting to comite suiccide after he completes his final tasks which if I got right it's watching all the animes he has in the list untill his PC also die...as he wouldn't have money to buy a new one.
I tried to support him and get him out of his sheel by talking to his mom and convicing him to get a job or something...I haven't really insisted on the subject bcuz you can't force a person do what they don't want. 

Anyway that's just how the situation is now with one of my childhood friends , let's hope he doesn't end up as your friend did...I mean at last he is straight 100% that I know for sure.

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Fritters56 In reply to Mo0nX [2015-06-29 02:09:11 +0000 UTC]

Can I ever expect to understand what it is like to be gay? I don't think so. It would be sort of like you fully understanding the friend you speak of only more so.. Things get confused, side ways and up side down when you consider what makes the blood boil and like my friend it is hard to speak of and explain. I would have a hard time explaining why it is I am hetro and then again why should I have too.  My cousin found herself a nice girl friend and then lost her to a heart attack. After a life time of struggling  to feel good about what she was and not being born with anything that could ever be called good looks as she has birth defects.  She has since tried to take her own life twice. Her son from a period of her life where she tried the hetro life calls her Bat shit crazy and indeed she is any more.

My sister had a son that finally admitted he was gay and his mother ended up in therapy, because she couldn't deal with it. Things are getting better for gays here in the states, but it is still no picnic for them. My brother had  a girl, a sweet little thing and she cut all ties with the family after announcing she was gay. So we still have a long way to go here in the states where in spite of everything gays are still seen as more or less the boogie man.  I do not spare myself in any of that after totally missing the boat where my dear friend was concerned. He was so very bright, He and I were always neck in neck for the best grades in school, although he was much smarter then me in math. I am not sure, but I really think he was  living off his mom right up until she died. I went on to college and worked my way through and I know he never even looked into it....

 I use a lot of male models in my work, mainly because most people I know, male and female alike all use the female models and as a result not as much is available out there for the male models and I am conducting a personal war against that....lol I generally don't use "pretty people" a lot because again there are too many people already out there doing that and I hate to be seen as following the herd.  I have to laugh every time I think of the fellow I went to college with. If we showed up for life drawing class and there was a male model, he would pack up and go home...lol

I guess I would have to admit I like the male body better from the artistic stand point, just from the stand point there is more to see, more muscle structure and everything and people enjoy looking at a man's rugged face as compared to a woman's wrinkles...notice I used the word rugged when talking about an older man's face, because that is how the world wants to see it. On a woman, she is lucky if she is not referred to as an "old hag" or "bitty" for developing some character to her face as she grows older. An older woman's body is something to be made fun of, while a man is either seen as fragile or as a Santa Claus... I was shocked and yet delighted to see you celebrate the male body as sensual. I still think of myself as an idiot for not seeing this possibility myself. In a very real sense I handicapped myself, sort of like always seeing a grassy field and never seeing the cows or the trees....lol

Now if My being long worded in talking to you in English I can down load, (I think) a translation program and write to you in your own language. Course you know how that works, the translation will most likely be one step above baby talk with lots of mis-translations...lol

Talk at you later my friend...

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Mo0nX In reply to Fritters56 [2015-06-29 09:37:01 +0000 UTC]

No don't be silly xD I understand every word no need for a translation program. Despite not having leanguage as my native leanguage I try my best to use it properly, ofcourse there's still spelling mistakes most of the time and I'm sure you can see it , but pardon my lack of knowledge . When I encounter a uncommon word that I haven't heared or read it before I search for it's meaning and memorize it. That's how I keep up .

I enjoyed to read about your friends (I hope that doesn't sound weird) , because everytime I learn something new and I'm able to figure out how to deal with similar or different situations myself; and all that because of listening to cultivated people like you ( it's an expression here meaning you have wisdom).

My mom doesn't know either i'm gay , she is sick of cirrhotic hepatitis which can kill her at any moment . I nvr told her I'm gay and the secret will be still keept even after her death because I can't see her to understand and I care too much about people that I love to hurt them .

Perhaps that's the reason your friend never told you , or why your brother's daughter left after she came out as a gay person. The reason  I'm talking about is that despite the fact we like same gender sexually oriented , we are still people and we still love our closest friends/family and we know we can't change what a person is because we have asked the same question ourself since it started to occure to us who we are and why we are different than straight people and why we like what we like : "why are we like we are? " , "why can't we be normal ?" . (notice the repetition of the word "why")
It's a phase in the gay life and no one can understand it but a gay person. We are judged and we are sick to be judged and ask ourself "why" over and over again ; all we want is what everyone else want "a happy life in peace" ..

So you see my friend maybe being gay is not that different , it's only some certain straight persons who are being sad fucks and don't have anything better to do than search for how to make people's life harder ..but you see now I consider those people to be unable to think since I'm sure they wouldn't like to be done the same things they do to the people they chose to moke on for being gay.

I'm however glad to see there's still a few straight people thinking clear like you

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Fritters56 In reply to Mo0nX [2015-06-29 21:03:51 +0000 UTC]

Unlike many people I have time to contemplate and as a writer I have questions which I can never fully answer in words. In my art I reach out to try and make people do the same.  I don't have the answers, just the questions and wish to some how make things make sense. I don't know if I see more for having seen so much or just because I have seen it longer. Young people get to only see what they are doing as you get older you get you get to see what you have done...

If your damned unlucky you get to see what you have done with a great deal of regret and a desire more then most that you could have a do over.  I feel no great pride for being seen as some what wise. I heard that as you get older your mind lives more in the past, but nothing prepared me for reliving those moments of regret over and over, never being able to change the script...

Getting old, making a lot of mistakes and being a writer is really a bad combination....lol

writing sometimes opens doors best left closed... or maybe it is having  undiagnosed compulsive/Obsessive disorder....

Not different???? Oh you are different alright, I have met many a gay person and it always seems they fall into two categories, they are either real butch with a big chip on their shoulder or very feminine.  Not so noticeable in men many times, but women broadcast it. I don't sense that with you, which makes you very very interesting...lol Yes people are people and that definition tends to be the roles picked out for gays to play in scripts and I even hate mentioning it... But the same is true in any relationship, one person is always dominate in it.  Who is more aggressive, a man out to protect his women and look out for her or a fellow looking out for his partner. Course it also might be the neighborhoods I hang out in... Point is we are all different so saying all gays are this or that is like saying all Jewish people are cheap. 

society defines us and even enforces how we see one another, that is what has to change, problem is it has to start one on one and then spread one on one, but as I say I don't have the total solutions to everything or anything, I just try to get the questions right.

Talk to you more the next time I see your art work posted and we shall see if I can't be of some use to you. lol

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Fritters56 In reply to Pajunen [2015-05-14 16:21:02 +0000 UTC]

no thank you for sharing!!!

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