Tophertron In reply to Handheld-Ninja [2010-10-02 21:54:47 +0000 UTC]

Oh really, then where's your proof? You've offered nothing to back your claims up whatsoever, and neither has he. Furthermore, that mesh is not the only one that has been stolen, there are at least two different artists whose meshes he has used in this way without credit.

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Handheld-Ninja In reply to Tophertron [2010-10-02 22:18:51 +0000 UTC]

The others that you speak of can also be found on Cgshare.com, Scifi Meshes, and other 3D websites. The proof is in the pudding my friend and if you haven't noticed either people share there meshes on here too so whats the big deal? Its a contest either he wins or he doesn't why does it matter to you or anyone else (most of which don't have a lick of spit on there profiles) that he enters a contest with "his" mesh. Its shareable its the internet thats how it works. If he did use someone else's mesh which, he never has, then he would give them credit because hes not a thief like some others that are in the contest as well. But my question here is why bother him? Why go through all this trouble to bring this good man to "so called" vigilante justice on his on work? YOu can even download the meshes and mess with them all you wanted if you to those websites and download them its just that easy. Simple math if you did some research you'd find your proof. Period.

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Tophertron In reply to Handheld-Ninja [2010-10-05 20:01:16 +0000 UTC]

That' funny because it's FROM Scifi Meshes that I've been made aware that your "good man" is using others' meshes without credit. And THAT is the problem; he's not crediting them either in the images he posts or the commentary he puts alongside.

All you have done so far is utter rhetorical nonsense and not provided any evidence that your "friend" (assuming it's not just the same guy posting under another username) is the creator of said meshes. Which, you couldn't, since he's quite plainly not.

Decrying that "it's the internet, everything is free to anyone" is utter bullshit, and points to a lack of understanding of copyrighting and the concept of intellectual property. You don't mess with someone else's mesh "all you wanted" without A) consulting said mesh creator, and/or B) giving credit where it is due. And for the record, there's no "math" involved whatsoever.

Since you haven't bothered to provide any evidence counter to what I've said thus far, I can only conclude that you are either severely deluded as to how the world works, or you are as fraudulent as your friend. After all, what has any of this got to do with YOU?

PS: I've just noticed YarYarYar has posted links verifying again that Fran444 is a fraud, among the comments on Francis' profile. Suggest you follow said links, before you attempt to make any further comments.

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Handheld-Ninja In reply to Tophertron [2010-10-05 22:52:33 +0000 UTC]

OK fine. Your proposition stands and so does mine. But in fact i'm not francis neither am I an art therapist so this isn't my problem neither is it yours. Not telling you to ignore the fact he could be stealing. But im not telling you your right or wrong. Either way when contest date comes and he either wins or not. I don't need to care I just don't think it was mature the way you addressed it to him. But not wanting to sound hypocritical I must apologize myself if i've come off on the wrong foot with my own vague vocabulary. Thus, I don't want to continue the discussion, because it will get me no where or you and I agree on your terms of copyrighting very much (I've had that problem myself except someone stole from me). But I do apologize not only to you but others if I seemed like an "asshole" I have no need or want to protect francis, he can do that himself.

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Tophertron In reply to Handheld-Ninja [2010-10-06 11:47:24 +0000 UTC]

No worries, Handheld-Ninja. Unfortunately the *ahem* more mature approach has already been attempted -through "legalalise" communications to the DA mods- with no success whatsoever, and thus it seems hassling Francis until he takes down his items of infringement may be the only resort left. As such, those of us infuriated by these actions are forced down this route. Believe me, your dismay at this tactic is far outweighed by ours at those who commit to theft from legitimate modellers... Regardless, have a nice day.

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Handheld-Ninja In reply to Tophertron [2010-10-06 20:03:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks good luck to you.

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Tophertron In reply to picciu [2008-09-06 10:56:04 +0000 UTC]

No problem dude!

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Tophertron In reply to SplashColors [2008-08-28 17:06:19 +0000 UTC]

No problem!

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