MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-08-21 21:58:41 +0000 UTC]

Sorry to give you another comment, it will be short. I just wanted to say something. Yes, of course a God who we've never seen created us, have we seen evolution? No. Have we seen Satan? No. Have we seen hell? No. Have we seen Heaven? No. Have we seen our intestines being ripped out with a spear, chopped up in a mixer and thrown onto someone's windshield as they are driving down the highway? No! That doesn't mean they don't exist or it can't happen! Also I bet a lot of the music you listen to has Christian symbolism hidden in it that you have never noticed. And you'd better not insult or offend ~BlondeChick because frankly I don't care if you argue with me because I'll just argue sense into you. But I DO care if you aren't nice to my friends, because yes, I'm a little more than five years younger than you but I have SHARP fingernails, strong teeth, and strong toes...just ask my sister. (~Hobbit-Lass ) So I'd advise leaving me alone...

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-08-24 11:19:12 +0000 UTC]

no we haven't seen the theory of evolution, but ask around, there grounds for the theory it is backed up by proof. Where as the bible is the only proof you have, word of mouth and storys by people who heard voices. Theres no sense I need from you, you have nothing to teach me. You believe in fairytales thats why you guys like lord of the rings so much.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-08-25 03:02:14 +0000 UTC]

Proof? Of evolution? Nonsense!!! I have PLENTY to teach you about God, I just probably have not even said 1% of it yet. I don't believe in Lord of the Rings it is just cool because there are really good (and hot) actors in it and it is just cool. I don't believe it all could actually happen. And Christianity is NOT a fairytale!!!

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-08-25 11:22:29 +0000 UTC]

oh yes, that paragraph has convinced me... how could i be so foolish, you have totally disproved the theory of evolution there. I AM CONVERTED! wooo reborn.....
christians are boring, your fairytale may have been around a while but that doesn't mean its now become truth.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-08-25 23:32:35 +0000 UTC]

I am most certainly not boring. Ask anyone besides yourself. And for the five hundredth time the Bible is NOT a fairy tale

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-02 12:23:18 +0000 UTC]

it is a fairytale
I watched a christian minister yesterday say that if you are jewish you will go to hell because you do not believe in jesus.... you guys are so tollerent.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-02 23:41:21 +0000 UTC]

What in the world are you talking about!! Jews believe in Jesus! As a matter of fact, Jesus himself is a Jew!

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-03 18:48:02 +0000 UTC]

no lol, for someone so up on religeon you don't know much. Though jesus was a jew, the jewish faith may believe a man named jesus existed but do not believe he was the son of God. They only read from the old testiment and do not take into accont the new testiment during workship. If they did they might aswel be christians you idiot.
A christian minister said that jesus was the way to heave and you had to believe in him, he was asked about the jews and said he would have to say they will all go to hell.
You aren't as smart as you think.
If you're wrong about that... maybe you are wrong about god's existance dont you think.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-03 23:40:19 +0000 UTC]

Yes I am as smart as I think...or perhaps smarter. Probably smarter than you for my age. For example I can spell much better and DON'T call me an idiot. Haven't you ever heard "The path to Heaven is narrow and only a few find it, but the path to Hell is very wide and most people find it"? It seems that you have simply found the wide path...what a pity.

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-05 22:11:06 +0000 UTC]

so smart but you still we're wrong about the jewish people not believing in jesus. Spelling? so that makes you smart because you still sound like an idiot no matter how well you seem to spell. Have you ever heard the saying, when you die your body rots and you don't go the heaven? no well there you go you have now.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-06 22:01:22 +0000 UTC]

Your body rots and your soul goes to heaven or hell depending on ur religion. No offense but you sound WAY more idiotic than me. You know you really ought to watch The Passion. You might learn something. Now get out of my hair. I'm tired of trying to talk sense in to an atheist because nothing a Christian says to an atheist ever sinks in.

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-09 14:36:25 +0000 UTC]

what you mean that movie of some guy who looks like jesus gets whipped for a the hole movie.... you do know imitating christ is a sin don't you? I sound way more idiotic but you didn't know that the jews only read from the old testiment and don't believe in jesus as the saviour. Yeh I think we proved you are the idiot here. You talk "sense" about sunjects that you don't even know about.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-10 02:08:11 +0000 UTC]

Well I sure know a lot more than you. Even if imitating Him is a sin he is acting out the part so clueless atheists like you can learn something. And everyone says He gets whipped the entire movie but really its not true. There are just a few whipping parts. Maybe you TRIED to prove I'm the idiot but obviously it's apparent to most of my devart friends that you failed in your attempt to prove me an idiot and that you need to shut up and leave me alone. I agree with the fact that you need to go away. I've come to the conclusion that trying to talk to you is utterly pointless because all my good points go right over your head, or bounce off your head, or go in one ear and out the other side with out you even stopping to think about it.

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-15 14:33:27 +0000 UTC]

well if your not an idiot, why are you coming to my deviant art account, which you and I have been arguing on, to tell me to go away. You could just stop posting on MY account, you dick. "He" is acting a part but when God created the world and when Jesus was around there weren't any movies around. So I'm afraid when the sin of imitation god was written it didn't stipulate that it was ok if you're an actor. So again your an idiot. This plus all the above reasons, just say the same thing. You need to go read the bible some more then come back and argue. It's seems clueless atheists like myself know more of the parables and religion then you clueless Christians. Oh and do you really think I give a shit what your gay deviant art online "friends" think. There opinions mean about as much as yours does to me.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-15 23:45:07 +0000 UTC]

If I read the Bible any more than I already do I wouldn't even be able to remember the things and think about them and I'm sure I read it more than you anyway. Don't call me a dick. And obviously you aren't thinking when you say, "oh no it's a sin to imitate Jesus" because it only would be if you were running around like "i'm Jesus, worship me!" but if you're just acting as Him in a movie everyone ought to watch to help them realize atheists need faith it's not a sin. And I didn't say it's ok because Jim Caviezel is an actor, I said it's ok because of that whole long sentence I just wrote. And what do you mean by friends in quotes? Do you think I would pretend someone's my friend when they're not? You tell me to say "the same thing"? Fine then, you're an idiot. Well that's what you told me to say. I know, most people including me are annoyed when people act stupid, but then again it is a way to make someone go away. And if you're so against me posting on your account, why are you doing it yourself? And then where are we supposed to post, on MY account? It's not like yours is more valuable just because it's older or because you're a "cool atheist" or whatever your reason is. Now SHOO before I tell the staff you're harassing me and calling me bad names. And don't say I'm harassing you because I am arguing with you but at least I'm not calling you a dick and calling your friends gay. I didn't say you DID say I'm harassing you, I'm just warning you. Now why don't you run along lil child

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-17 10:56:23 +0000 UTC]

“If I read the Bible any more than I already do I wouldn't even be able to remember the things and think about them and I'm sure I read it more than you anyway”
Catholic high school and primary school, I’m older and have obviously had more time to learn about various religions and take into account the facts the world has to offer, You are young and ignorant, your scared of life and love your imaginary god. You have no explanation for anything bad this God lets happen to us in the world except for he can’t be everywhere at once which according to the bible he can.

“Don't call me a dick. And obviously you aren't thinking when you say”
I called you a dick because you are a dick

“running around like "i'm Jesus, worship me!"
I think you will find acting like Jesus is basically doing that. You are saying I am Jesus.

“friends in quotes”
I mean there internet friends and you probably have no actual friends outside the church group. You’re probably too busy learning about God for all that anyway, plus most people are sinners who should be damned to hell.

“Do you think I would pretend someone's my friend?”
I wouldn’t put it past you

“Fine then, you're an idiot”
Well that’s an offensive insult, if you had left that out you could report me but now you to have broken the rules. I thought Christianity wasn’t about judging people. Seems it is.

“why are you doing it yourself?”
Because it’s my account you’re spamming up with your god crap

“It's not like yours is more valuable just because it's older or because you're a "cool atheist" or whatever your reason is”
It’s more valuable because I produce art instead of dribble about God, being a “cool atheist” is just part of it

“Now SHOO before I tell the staff you're harassing me and calling me bad names. And don't say I'm harassing you because I am arguing with you but at least I'm not calling you a dick and calling your friends gay”
You called me an idiot, you don’t have to come to my account and read this, you don’t need to reply, and you wouldn’t be harassed if you didn’t reply or just left. But you do. You can’t complain harassment if you’re the one coming here to post on my account. You called me an idiot though and that’s an insult just like me calling you a dick, big of a flaw in your plan.

“Now why don't you run along lil child”
I’m older then you and well not really a child

Basically to sum up, I don’t give a shit if I get warned I would usually let it slide but I will fight this and if I’m warned you will also be warned trust me. Do what the fuck you want seriously I don’t give a shit but you don’t need to come to my account to do it. I’m just going to say this, you love god because you’re scared of life and death and all you can’t explain. One day you will grow up maybe even go through something real and you will think what the fuck I was thinking believing in this fairytale heaven. Life is life and then you die. Deal with it and you will be a much better off person. You’re also lucky I’m doing this in person there you cant get me “warned” and I’m much more convincing and articulate, you might even loose your faith.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-18 00:39:19 +0000 UTC]

I wish you lived in the US so I could use "this country was founded on God" and "Christianity is the primary religion in this country" as examples.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-18 00:37:56 +0000 UTC]

Just leave me ALONE!!! I'm not saying this not because I have nothing intelligent to say, in fact I could spend the whole rest of the day and a few more (not that you care how I spend my time as long as I'm not "dribbling about God") saying things full of intelligence that might possibly bring you up a tenth of a notch on the common sense scale. I'm saying it because I find the best way to end an argument is to say nothing that could have a long response like the one you just wrote me. Seriously, that must have taken you hours.

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-21 22:15:47 +0000 UTC]

Actually, even thought you assume I have no common sense, and a lack of intelligence. I type extremely fast I wrote that on my break at work. It took me 5 mins. Again you say Leave me alone yet once again your on MY account. So are you asking me to leave you alone on my account? To abandon my account and let you have it. Is this the sort of common sense you would like to teach me? I don’t think you understand that you will convert no one, and once day when you remember that God doesn't exist and that power comes from the people not the imaginatiary people they believe in. I will laugh and shake your hand; You will finally know the truth. That I was right all along.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-23 02:27:35 +0000 UTC]

I'm surprised you even have a job when you are so awfully mean to everyone who is not a "cool" (notice the quotes!) atheist. Not to mention the fact that I never said, implied, or otherwise represented the fact that you're right because you're not. I shall continue to for you to get some sense before you die so you don't have to go burn in hell. You'll thank me one day, you really will. That is if you finally decide to listen to me and become a really COOL Christian.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-08-21 21:34:39 +0000 UTC]

You really aren't making any sense. It's not like you'll burn in hell for being a homosexual because you're a Christian, you will no matter what unless you ask to be forgiven. And yes, the idea of evolution is foolish and maybe you think I'm stupid and ridiculous for saying that, but may I remind you that I'm right? And none of the nonsense about "oh someone got raped and murdered, no worries it's all God's plan" because just because he knows that someone is going to be raped and murdered doesn't mean he chose it to be that way. Think about fortune tellers. They may be able to tell you some of what will happen in your future. Does that mean they decided what would happen? NO! And no, I will not read the Bible all over again to find absurdity, because I would find none. And all the people who wrote the Bible? Do you honestly think that many people would get together and write a two-and-a-half inch "fairytale"? And may I remind you that it is NOT a fairytale or anything similar? Would all of them burn in hell too because they lied about what's happened in the past? Don't take this personally but you might as well just give up trying to argue what you deem to be "sense" into me because I already have more than you. Fear, when speaking of Christianity, does not necessarily mean being afraid. It means partially respecting Him...read some of the Bible, see how utterly un-absurd it is. How do you know Christianity is stupid if you don't try it? Think about this. Try listening to the radio station 105.5. Has some good songs. Sung by people that have common sense and try to give it to you. And yes, the sun IS a star but it is still God's creation. And for future reference, I wouldn't recommend saying the F-word around an eleven-year-old...

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-08-24 11:16:30 +0000 UTC]

did you just compare god to a fortune teller. Look, god can controll it because apparantly he controlls everything, decides everything and is everywhere so he can stop what he likes when he likes actually. May I remind you that fortune tellers don't really see the future. You obviously failed to evolve

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-08-25 02:59:14 +0000 UTC]

It was an example to make you understand me!! Yes He can stop or start anything anytime He chooses to, but that doesn't mean He usually does it. If He did that would be a very very very rare occasion. Fortune tellers cannot always tell the future but sometimes they can and God always can. Please go to ~Hobbit-Lass 's page & read her most recent poem, you should find it interesting.

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-08-25 11:23:35 +0000 UTC]

you know.... he can stop it but rarely does yes? so why doesn't he stop good people being raped or murdered. Or does he justify it by saying they broke one of the 10 commandments when they we're 6.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-08-25 23:40:23 +0000 UTC]

Because...oh it's so difficult to explain so why don't you just TRY reading the Bible. And please stop being sarcastic! You know, there's a shirt which says "I'm not opinionated I'm just always right". I ought to wear it. I mean not ALWAYS because everyone knows I'm human and I make mistakes but in this matter I guarantee you can trust me when I say I'm right. Someday either you will never believe in God then you will go to Hell and think oh I'm so stupid, I should have listened to Natalie. Or else you will believe in him and go to Heaven and think I'm so glad I listened to her. Would you really rather go to a place where you burn with all the liars and murderers instead of a place where there is no fear or sadness or pain and the streets are made of gold so pure you can see through it?

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tomserious In reply to MidgetTheWhiner [2004-09-02 12:22:20 +0000 UTC]

natalie, you act like I don't want your wonderland to exist. I wish that the fairy tale was real.... I went to catholic school for about 12 years, I read the bible I got an A in religous studies. Don't assume I just don't believe in this shit without hearing the evidence for it aswell as against. I'm glad you have think theres a magic man in the sky with the gold streets and love. It's just not there, I'd say when you die you will see I'm right. But you will just be dead so you won't see anything.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to tomserious [2004-09-02 23:39:31 +0000 UTC]

Please stop trying to convince me you're right! I know I'm right! Go ahead and don't believe me, but I can assure you that in the end you will be very sorry you didn't listen to me.

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MidgetTheWhiner In reply to Hobbit-Lass [2004-06-17 19:44:46 +0000 UTC]

You must be tougher on him in order to convince him to eliminate his mental retardation. Take a look at the comment I just gave him on your page.

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