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So, I'm going slowly mad waiting for the Hobbit to come out next week and while I wait I amuse myself with getting more and more obsessed with Elrond
It's all because of that tv-spot for the Hobbit where Elrond is having a moment ogling Turgon's old sword like it's a very delicious treat (and an elf who might be Erestor is shooting him a pointed look, almost as if to say, 'please, my lord, don't embarrass yourself now'
)That had me thinking about his ancestry yet again, and about Gondolin and why it might be that Glorfindel swore loyalty to Elrond when he came back. It makes sense that he did though, given that Elrond is a descendant of Turgon, whom Glorfindel served while he was lord of Gondolin and High-King of the Noldor.
This in turn made me realize, that if he hadn't inherited the title of high-king from Gil-galad though being his herald, Elrond would have inherited it from Turgon's line.
And well, the only reason I'm geeking out so much about this is that Elrond had every right to claim the kingship but never did so officially- he just takes care of people quietly.
I love him
On the picture then is the unofficial, but de facto high-king of the Noldor, with his two advisers, Erestor, whom we know little about and Golden-haired Glorfindel the Balrog-slayer.
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I agree 1000% with everything you said. Elrond is my absolute favourite of Tolkien's characters :3
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Oh mine too
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hehe indeed
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Mine too!
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His decision not to claim kingship was pretty smart for another reason- Galadriel herself would have had claim as well, and so he avoided that potential can o'worms by being his awesome self. Turgon only came by kingship because so man others died, and so while Elrond had claim by way of his dad, Galadriel had claim by way of her dad as well. Turgon was a cousin or hers if I remember right. Inheritance is complicated. True, Gilgalad gave Elrond first claim to it, but Elrond also knew that a High King of the Noldor wouldn't have set well with the Wood Elves.
And so you have one of the reasons why Elrond is in my top 5 elves ever, probably top 3.
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Yes, but it depends on who has most claim, the daughter of Finarfin, who was third son of Finwe and never had the title of high-king of the noldor in middle-earth, or the descendant of Fingolfin, who was the second son of Finwe and became king when Feanor's son relinquished the title
It's true though that Elrond was very smart in that if he stayed simply Lore-master of Rivendell, he wouldn't get into conflict with anyone
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I think Ereinion Gil-Galad was the great-great-grandson of Finarfin as well, so the Finarfinians did eventually claim kingship 
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Yeah that's a good point XD
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Finrod Felagund and Glorfindel, closely followed by Legolas and Celeborn. I like Amroth too, and Echthelion and Fingon. I could keep listing for a lot longer, but these stand out to me.
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That's a diverse bunch - nice choices though, I must say
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Yeah so... I've always LOVED Glorfindel *curses Arwen for stealing his part (>_<)*
And WOW, he looks amazing here! O_O
So I guess this means............ I just love him even more now!!! (>_<) (>_<) (>_<)
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X-D
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Haha yes, me too! (curse Arwen indeed
He always reminded me of an angel, coming to save Frodo in the nick of time, all shiny and white and glorious
I'm glad you like my version of him so much
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Thank you, I'm glad
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Wonderful image! I love that too about Elrond - that he might have been king but remained simply Master Elrond. Great work, really.
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Thank you so much!
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Yes, Elrond is a direct descendant of Turgon, and thus also FinwΓ«. But on the other hand Galadriel is also related to FinwΓ«, and fewer generations away. But I think neither really wanted to be called king or queen.
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yes, true, but I suppose that as long as Fingolfin's descendants live, she wouldn't be Queen of the Noldor. She has her own kingdom though, which it seems like she would want more than to rule the Noldor, but I don't rightly know why she hasn't made any claims to be honest, she seems more power-hungy than Elrond in any case
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She used to be more power hungry. But as Silmarillion or UT states it also, her wisdom grew within time. The last test of her wisdom was when the One Ring came to her reach so she could have it easily, and she refused to take it. It was that event that opened her the doors back to Aman.
As for her not making claims, I believe her marriage with Celeborn influenced that - they balanced each other in many ways which is probably why they were portrayed as a perfect couple. And it's good like that she didn't make claims, because I like Elrond and Galadriel better as allies rather than rivals. Fingolfin and Finarfin were always bosom friends, and it remained like that in Third Age.
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Yes very true - her wisdom grew with age and experience and I think you're right that her marriage to Celeborn was a dampener on some of her harder attitudes as well as a great support to her. As for claims, yes, they are far better as allies, but they could hardly be anything else with Elrond marrying Celebrian
yes I suppose their brotherhood was only accentuated and made stronger by Feanor's opposition
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Also, Glorfindel might be a son of Findis or IrimΓ«, Finwe's daughters with Indis (canon, but seldom mentioned). But this is just a speculation. None the less, it would give a reason for Glorfindel to be in such a high status, both in Gondolin and Rivendell.
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hmm, possibly, is it supported anywhere? I know Glorfindel's background was changed around a lot as it is, so it's a bit complicated.
As for his status, that kind of ancestry would explain his high status in Gondolin, but in Rivendell he would be renowned for his deeds alone, I would think
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