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Description Hi This is sashun08, i learned that there are lots of reactions about this Tabanata Cards. Not only ss and nh but of course to sh and ns. I read some comments that some of you think that if jap and chinese versions exist and others said that ichiro's theories are all "fakes" or "just fan service". I hate to say this but even NS fans also posted negative comments about this theory. When i read their comments in their forum sites, she/he says "i like the writer's analysis but far fetched. He must be desperate to lead infos into ns/sh".

Honestly, i like his theory because he stated jap mythologies, and other informations all about Tabanata/ Star Festivals and of course, it's so fun to read. Like you guys, I never thought that there are two versions in the story.

Yes, this is fan service and yes, this is his theories but try to respect the person from japan who post his research here in my DA account. Remember, this is Deviantart, not Naruto Couples Forum Sites.


God bless you all.

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posted by Ichiro95

I was informed by a friend here in DA to explain about these Tabanata cards found in wiki couples. All i can see in these cards that there are hints of Narusaku, naruhina, Sasusaku and sasuhina. These four are well-known (or popular) characters in japan when it comes to pairings. Let's see:

* CHAKRA LEVELS: Notice the chakra levels of naruto (17), sasuke (25), sakura (18) and hinata (26). It does seem that Hinata is associated with the number 8, as i stated in sashun08's journal that hinata (Team 8 member) is associated in japanese mythology as Kushinada-hime, the eight and the last princess who was saved by Susanoo-no-mikoto from 8-headed snake (Yamanata-no-orochi). Sasuke (Former Team 7) is also associated in myth as Susanoo (God of storm & the seas) who has a weapon of Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi ("Grass Cutting Sword") given from Orochimaru and of course, he represented as Crescent moon (also coincidence that the shape of kusanagi is like a Scythe as all know that it is use in cutting the grass) where crescent moon appear every 7th day of the month). Naruto's chakra is 17, while sakura's chakra is 18 so when you add up naruto’s chakra number will give you the result of  8 like Hinata, representing as a a sun number but deducting 8 with 1 will get you number 7 like sasuke, representing as a moon. So that means, both naruto represents as number 8 or 7, sasuke represents as number 7, hinata represents as number 8 and sakura probably represents as 7. It's coincidence for sakura because well...aside of being Team 7... in chinese folklore, Zhinu (Orihime) is the 7th daughter of the Sky King.

* TITLES: Naruto entitled as "The first star of midsummer" (also known as the first star (Altair) on July7; in short "Hikoboshi"), hinata entitled as "Tabanata version", sasuke entitled as "Tsukuyomi Illusion", and sakura entitled as "Orihime Prayer". Naruto and sakura represent themselves as Hikoboshi (Niulang) and Orihime (Zhinu) based from the original chinese folklore "The Weaving Princess and the Cow Herder Star". Hinata is "Tabanata version" so that means, there are two different versions they made. The story of the original tabanata  where Orihime, the Sky King Daughter, was arranged to marry Hikoboshi. They knew each other because they both lived and worked on the other side of the Amanogawa. And you know that Amanogawa ("river of heaven") has a pink flower (another type of sakura) that planted in Arakawa River, near Tokyo known as "Prunus Amanogawa" (Japanese Flowering Cherry). The other version is the farmer named Mikeran who found a hagoromo ("robe of feathers") in the fields, until he realized the robe was belonged to a Goddess named Tabanata. Desire to have or use her power, he hid the robe and lied to the goddess so that she's unable to go back in the heaven and force to live with him. Hagoromo also linked to "Hagoromo densetsu" (in one example recorded in the Omi-no-kuni Fudoki tells of a man who instructs his dog to steal the hagoromo of eight heavenly maidens while they were bathing, forcing one of them to become his bride). Sasuke is "Tsukuyomi Illusion" and we know that Tsukuyomi is the god of moon in jap mythology. So this means, Hinata and Sasuke represent themselves as "Tabanata and Mikeran" in Tabanata jap version.

Weaving princess & the Cow Herder Star:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata
Tabanata version 2: japanfolklore.blogspot.com/200…
Hagoromo Densetsu : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale…

* DRESS-UP: The chinese version of Tabanata stated that the Orihime (Zhinu) wore pink or red (royal color for the princess) cloths while Hikoboshi (Niulang) wore green cloths. The japanese version stated that the Goddess Tabanata wore red or light blue (symbolizes that she is the sky goddess) and Mikeran wore blue and violet (the color for power). The beaded necklace or "nenju" ("Thought beads") used as a japanese rosary to pray for the gods. Each beads represent the "sins of man" or earthly desires. The large bead is "magatama" owned by the Amaterasu (Sun Goddess).

* According to folklore, Orihime and Hikoboshi: When the two met, instantly they fell in love with each other and married shortly thereafter. But the story didn't stated if they have children so this is the picture what they actually wear (without children):

faestwistandtango.files.wordpr…
www.ehonnavi.net/images/ehon41…

Tabanata and Mikeran: When Mikeran lied and told the goddess that he hadn't found the robe, she decided to stay in earth and live with him. The pair fell in love, were wed and had 2 children. So this picture what they actually wear when they're married with two children.

www.japan-activator.com/js/tin…


* WORDS:

Sasuke::願いが…「力」が欲しい…"A Wish is…..I desire power."
Sakura:: サスケくん……この想い届いて欲しい….."Sasuke-kun…..I desire these feelings to reach"
Naruto::「火影になる!」って短冊に書いたってばよ!"I have written on the tanzaku, ‘I want to be a Hokage’!!"
Hinata:: ど……どしよう……ナルトくん……喜んでくれるかな?"What shall I do it? To make Naruto-kun happy (for me)?"

If you read these lines, it looks like "one-sided". Naruto wished for hokage, Sasuke wished for more power, Sakura wished that her feelings reach for him and Hinata wished to make him happy for her. According to source, their wishes for love will be granted if one of them also make a wish for them. For example, a man's wish is to marry his crush, the celestial maiden also respond his wish "i wish that i'll be with you forever" or just like that.

One popular Tanabata custom is to write one's wishes on a piece of paper, and hang that piece of paper on a specially erected bamboo tree, in the hope that the wishes become true. If the sky is clear on the night of 七夕, your wish might be accepted by 神様 (かみさま – kamisama – God) of Heaven. But you must give up it when it’s a rainy night. In fact, the poor lovers (Altair and Vega) can’t meet either on a rainy night, so they must wait for next year.

* NAME OF ATTACK:

Note: I'll try to finish for naruto and hinata's name of their attacks

Sasuke's name of attack is Naruto because it says, "Hikoboshi's whisper"
Sakura's name of attack is Hinata because it says, "The womanly feelings of a Celestian Maiden". Sakura and Hinata are the only female characters dressed up as Celestial Maiden so, it's Hinata. It's like sakura decided to attack hinata's feelings for naruto.

* BACKGROUND: They are all surrounded by Milky Way ("Heavenly River") but look closely at hinata's second picture. You can see behind her are the shadows of trees and a ray of light, this signifies that she's indeed the "Goddess Tabanata". Sakura's 1st and 2nd cards surrounded by a wind.

* BODY LANGUAGE: Naruto, sasuke and sakura holds Bamboo leaves that means they already have their wishes, you can see naruto has lots of bamboo leaves that signifies he's working hard to make his wish comes true. But in Hinata's second card, you'll see her holding upright her tanzaku without holding or surrounding bamboo leaves. She looks unhappy and worried in this picture (you can see her facial expression and her gesture in first and second pictures). It's like she's having a second thought whether she give her wish or not. The sitting pose and looking up in the sky shows the unhappy Goddess Tabanata (unmarried to Mikeran) wanted to return her homeland (heaven) but she was force to stay in earth because her robe was stolen.

* SECOND CARD: Sakura holds a tanzaku and a brush. It looks like she removes the violet tanzaku and hangs the new pink tanzaku. Hinata holds only one pink tanzaku.

Naruto, sakura, sasuke and hinata (c) Masashi Kishimoto
researched by: Ichiro95

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Arigatou gozaimasu, sashun-niisan for posting my research work here in DA. I know you're busy right now with your studies.... ganbatte kudasai, niisan!!!  

We miss you here in Kyoto! We're looking forward for your visit next year! ~ Ichiro95

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Comments: 40

XxBambigirl22xX [2014-07-31 18:06:01 +0000 UTC]

I'm just saying... I personally like NaruHina and SasuSaku, but in the long run, I think what matter's most is Naruto's success, happiness, and us finally seeing Naruto succeed at his goal - becoming Hokage. This manga/anime, isn't romance based, and it never really focused mostly on romance. I believe people are getting a bit too worked up about who will be with who, and are missing the actual point of the manga/anime.

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whenyinmetyang In reply to XxBambigirl22xX [2014-11-03 14:26:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for reminding everybody. Made me stop and think before I go too far into this.

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AyanMoonlight [2014-07-18 20:58:43 +0000 UTC]

It's nervous time next week.

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sashun08 In reply to AyanMoonlight [2014-07-19 04:38:49 +0000 UTC]

HI AyanMoonlight, i would like to share this the-saad-spring.tumblr.com/pos…

I read her blog in Tumblr today. I hope it helps you to overcome your nervousness ^_^

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sashun08 In reply to AyanMoonlight [2014-07-19 03:53:06 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry and calm down, AyanMoonlight. I think kishi already gave a clue. Remember what obito said to sakura in chapter 685, "When he stumbles, you want to help him (naruto)"...well, i also remember what kakashi said to obito about naruto in chapter 655, mangapanda.net/Naruto/655/17/

You know what that means? ^_^

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AyanMoonlight In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-22 05:29:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your reassurance, best of luck to us next chapter.

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sashun08 In reply to AyanMoonlight [2014-07-22 06:43:03 +0000 UTC]

I'm excited to see the chapter 686 and i dunno why. ^_^

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AyanMoonlight In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-23 10:11:40 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry but SS is canon with that color page. If NS was the final pair then why draw that? I want to believe but with stuff like that, it's shrinking by the minute.

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sashun08 In reply to AyanMoonlight [2014-07-24 02:06:47 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, but i'm not affected because i have already saw a spoiler about this spreadsheet last monday and of course, i still believe that NS is not yet lost because of the parallels shown in this latest chapter. It's so Funny because asians (especially in korea) are trending about Naruto's last movie and October 17 is the last chapter of the series, and they're not trending much about sakura's riding sasuke..lol

My greatest fear right now is the end of naruto. In japan when they stated as the "Last Movie" that means, there will be no extension on this manga and of course like in HP 7, they will show what happen to the characters in the future if naruto became hokage or not.

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AyanMoonlight In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-24 02:31:05 +0000 UTC]

You're one of the main reasons I still have hope. I just hope something good comes NS way. TY

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sashun08 In reply to AyanMoonlight [2014-07-24 04:10:40 +0000 UTC]

Here ichiro's message about this spreadsheet. He said this colored spreadsheet was based from plot in chapter 685 and 686. Notice the picture: Naruto takes a lead and holds two guns upward, this shows that he's facing an opponent just like in recent chapter where he's facing Kaguya alone. Sakura rides sasuke's horse and sasuke holds his gun up because in recent chapter, she and obito tries to bring sasuke back to naruto. Kakashi always in the background and watches his students just like in chapter 685-686. Notice how sakura holds sasuke. Her "belt" hold (lol) is the same in chapter 48, she feared that she might gonna fall. Same sasuke's arrogant face in chapter 48 and 686. Just like what i've posted here before and since this is a shonen (not shoujo), the REAL canon is when a hero confess to the one he loves and we don't know who.

Ichiro said that the canon will be revealed in naruto movie and of course, the last chapter this coming October 2014. He also said that Kishi might post another colored spreadsheet but this time it's not AU... it's either about the "New Era" or Naruto The Last Movie promotion. The movie will be shown on December 6 (too bad i'm not able to take my vacation in Kyoto this December because of my exam is on Dec 20..T_T) And you know that they will end the manga before the movie showing in theaters so that means, the naruto manga will end this coming October 17. This is why in Korea, china and ofc japan became trending in Twitter because of this  T_T

Arigatou, AyanMoonlight for believing in me and don't give up. Yes, let's kept our fingers crossed that there's another hope for NS.

Let's enjoy the chapter, okay? ^_^

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sashun08 In reply to AyanMoonlight [2014-07-24 01:57:16 +0000 UTC]

Nobody's lost, AyanMoonlight. Because, it's still not canon, just because of colored spreadsheet???  This spreadsheet reminds me of this (chapter 48 color spreadsheet):

a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/739/132282…

In shonen, the real canon is when a hero confess to a person he loves. Naruto hasn't confess his love yet so that means, it isn't canon. Naruto's confession will be reveal before the end of manga. The color spreadsheet is just a fan service, just like Tabanata cards and LOTR. If this is canon because of a spreadsheet then why kishi added parallels in his chapter? Naruto=obito, sasuke=kakashi and sakura=rin?

mangafox.me/manga/naruto/vTBD/…
mangafox.me/manga/naruto/vTBD/…

And there's a clue in obito's last inner monologue: mangafox.me/manga/naruto/vTBD/…

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AyanMoonlight In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-23 07:46:00 +0000 UTC]

We lost, thank you for everything. I salute you and god bless.

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pyokkii [2014-07-13 00:48:34 +0000 UTC]

lol I just think everybody needs to calm down....you're all entitled to our own ships, and nobody stopping you or preventing you from shipping two people, alright? Take a chill pill or something lmao. 

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sashun08 In reply to pyokkii [2014-07-13 04:39:03 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you. I laughed when i read their comments in other sites. They make a big deal in this mobile game cards. lmao^_^

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pyokkii In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-13 08:20:04 +0000 UTC]

People are so weird lmao...when Fairy Tail mobile game cards started appearing, everybody was happy, not getting into ship fights im pretty sure HAHHAHAH
btw the cards are really pretty LOL I like them ^-^

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sashun08 In reply to pyokkii [2014-07-14 09:27:37 +0000 UTC]

really?! lol. Yeah, i saw the samples somewhere here in net about FT game cards.

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pyokkii In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-15 09:09:40 +0000 UTC]

mmhmm! They're all so nice <33 and there's loads of them o u o 

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sakurakunoichi [2014-07-11 20:14:16 +0000 UTC]

why is sakura drawn so bad on the first one what a shame -.-

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sashun08 In reply to sakurakunoichi [2014-07-12 09:17:10 +0000 UTC]

Yes, i know but at least it's not drawn by kishimoto-sensei ^_^

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sashun08 [2014-07-10 23:47:17 +0000 UTC]

Arigatou gozaimasu, sashun-niisan for posting my research work here in DA. I know you're busy right now with your studies.... ganbatte kudasai, niisan!!!  

We miss you here in Kyoto! We're looking forward for your visit next year! ~ Ichiro95

Ichiro95 : Ogenki desuka?kamusta na kayo diyan sa Kyoto? Si Otousan at Okaasan? Grabe ka-trending ang research work mo!' Ngayon ko lang binasa ang post mo dito. Buti naka-access ka sa DA ko....hahaha...Arigatou Gozaimasu! Baka hindi ako makakauwi sa Kyoto next year kasi magtake ako ng summer class. Napaka-hirap ng Internal Med vol 1. nakakamigrane.hehe~sashun08

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yinaiye [2014-07-10 15:21:57 +0000 UTC]

HINATA  is  so  cute.

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natalieuciha [2014-07-10 07:55:58 +0000 UTC]

.i have sasuhina feels while reading this..interesting theory and it makes sense 

the card where sakura holds a brush and a violet tanzaku got me thinking..her wish is that her feelings could reach sasuke..maybe thats what was written on the violet tanzaku(which was removed) and she hanged a new pink tanzaku after she wrote a new wish (the fact that she is holding the brush)...could it be that she realized she does not want her feelings to reach sasuke anymore?..she seems to be the only one with 2 tanzakus
hinata however seems to be having second thoughts about her pink tanzaku,as you said..maybe she meditates if she truly wishes it or not

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DarkAmy-chan [2014-07-10 05:22:49 +0000 UTC]

muy interesante la informacion n.n

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AngelJasiel [2014-07-10 03:56:30 +0000 UTC]

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natalieuciha In reply to AngelJasiel [2014-07-10 07:57:01 +0000 UTC]

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sashun08 In reply to natalieuciha [2014-07-12 09:15:34 +0000 UTC]

Hi natalieuciha, i'm gonna hide all the comments here to prevent arguements....if it's ok with you.

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natalieuciha In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-12 13:16:00 +0000 UTC]

ok then  pls block any further troll who comes here to mock or bash because usualy shippers will defend their own ship..i only commented because i was atacked and i felt the need to defend my ship

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sashun08 In reply to natalieuciha [2014-07-13 04:47:06 +0000 UTC]

Ichiro95 is gonna use my DA account next month. I don't want him to read these negative comments esp from ss. One of them calling him "fake japanese". I felt sorry for my cousin. T_T Can u imagine that he lived in Kyoto, Japan for 21 years and reads shonen jump manga in advance,  and this obnoxious person from Mexico called him "fake japanese" because she said ichiro's translations on writings are all wrong????lol

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AngelJasiel In reply to natalieuciha [2014-07-10 17:37:40 +0000 UTC]

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sashun08 In reply to AngelJasiel [2014-07-11 05:40:51 +0000 UTC]

Angel Jasiel, this is from Kishi's interview :"Well only one of them will be returned, the main triangle of the series is in Team 7 and the pair will come from here". So that means one of these pairings (narusasu, narusaku and sasusaku) will end up together as a pairing soon. And don't worry, we will let you know which pairings will be the endgame after all ichiro95 is from Japan. That is why these shippers are very serious. ^_^

About making fun to a person's theory, well...when you mentioned here : "Well, I guess that's the only way NS can hold onto something, because NS as a pairing, can't made it by themselves. " then, it is a sign that you're started making more rants. If you didn't like Ichiro95's theory and you didn't like their comments, then why you're still commenting here? Afterall, ichiro95 didn't tag in SS.

Peace be with you!

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AngelJasiel In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-11 05:57:49 +0000 UTC]

lol, Kishimoto said that? , i dont believe the fans.  Where is the source?
you've said, OK?, you will let me know what pairing will be endgame.

the only thing i asked was: "Why Ns fans always are looking for parallels?, I dont understand it."
and it started
This deviation its on the SS tag .

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sashun08 In reply to AngelJasiel [2014-07-11 06:44:54 +0000 UTC]

lol Curious, are you?...  Why don't you browse in the internet to find the source. I've seen lots of this interview in Tumblr and in Naruto forum sites. I copied and paste it here.Try search here in google.com.jp
Sure, not only for you but of course to loyal narusaku pals...They will be the FIRST to know.

Well, it replies to your first question "Because we can" and you said "Well, I guess that's the only way NS can hold onto something, because NS as a pairing, can't made it by themselves. " and then the rant starts there. You didn't answer my question...i'll ask you, why you're still commenting here?

Which one you'd said ss tag? KonohaCorner ? The-SakuROCKS-FC ? Naru-Couples ? SasuHinaLove ? HinataHyugaFansClub ? NADNVK ? narusakuxlove ? SupremeMangaAnime ? Tell me which one?

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AngelJasiel In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-11 16:08:53 +0000 UTC]

I found the "one pairing will be canon" thing, but it doesnt says that the pairing will come from team 7.
i52.photobucket.com/albums/g13…
its from a magazine.

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AngelJasiel In reply to sashun08 [2014-07-11 15:42:35 +0000 UTC]

ah, cmon.., You were the one who told me that, so, i guess you should know
where you got that info..And i know 0% japanese, cant look into the "google.com.jp".

i am still commenting here because the others are still replying.

these arent tags, are groups.

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sashun08 In reply to AngelJasiel [2014-07-11 02:14:40 +0000 UTC]

Hi Angel Jasiel, this is sashun08. Ichiro95 is sasuhina/obisaku fan in japan. He's trying to explain his side to a person in DA  about these tanabata cards posted in the internet (wiki-couples). He also explains about the costumes they wore which based from chinese/japanese folklore and of course, what was written in their cards. If you think it's fan service...well, i can't blame you because these cards are taken from GREE mobile game app in japan. Everybody has their own perceptions about tabanata cards (sasuhina, narusaku, naruhina, sasusaku, and even narusasu). You can see in wiki-couples, tumblrs and even here in DA that they come up their own perceptions about their ships.

If you're sasusaku fan, you can read their theories here:
sasu-saku-uchiha.deviantart.co…
sasu-saku-uchiha.deviantart.co…
narutocouple.wikia.com/wiki/Th…

And if you are Naruhina fan, you can browse here:
narutocouple.wikia.com/wiki/Th…
naruhina.lovediscussion.net/t1…

if you think its "nonsense theories" then other theories from shippers are nonsense as well. . So, no need to argue, okay? This is just a mobile game. ^_^

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DarkAmy-chan In reply to natalieuciha [2014-07-10 21:37:03 +0000 UTC]

 

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BarbiiHaruno [2014-07-10 01:19:40 +0000 UTC]

Woow thanks for the info, recently saw the official dress of Orihime and Hikoboshi (Chinese version) and costumes are naruto and sakura

workingmomadventures.files.wor…

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sashun08 In reply to BarbiiHaruno [2014-07-11 07:56:40 +0000 UTC]

Hi!This is sashun08. Thanks for the link. I didn't know that Tabanata has 2 versions. I only have one version in my textbook about Orihime and Hikoboshi during our English Literature class. Ichiro95 really do his homework..hehehe

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DarkAmy-chan In reply to BarbiiHaruno [2014-07-10 05:20:19 +0000 UTC]

 

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Huaniee-chan [2014-07-09 13:02:08 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the explanation!

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sashun08 In reply to Huaniee-chan [2014-07-09 22:51:55 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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gekkodimoria [2014-07-09 12:15:57 +0000 UTC]

cool

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