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Published: 2013-11-25 20:47:24 +0000 UTC; Views: 1822; Favourites: 44; Downloads: 1
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Fixed myself a new icon, what do you guys think?It's quite similar to the last one, except of course for the fact that this one is a magpie and not just some anonymous black bird.
I'm still not quite satisfied with the tail though... What do you guys think? Is it bothersome?
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EDIT: More frames, faster framerate and less tailsweep. I think it looks better now 
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Haha oh yeah, that's true! Although I have less scientific motivations, I'm sure XP
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this is so cool! I like magpies, although I've been swooped a few times XD -not fun, let me tell you. But this animation is just so smooth and finished, I love it!
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Swooped? Oh, you're Australian? I heard about the swooping season, so freaky. I couldn't even imagine having to watch out for birds.
The magpies we have here, black billed magpies, corvids, are actually super shy. The ones in the city are okay but the others fly at the slightest disturbance. You can barely get close, a shame, truly.
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yeah, well magpies only swoop you if they're protecting their babies, but unfortunately, I just happened to be mucking around under a tree with a magpie nest.... oops.
They're not that bad, and it barely ever happens. Plus magpies have beautiful calls.
But yes, most birds are incredibly shy, bar pidgeons and the odd magpie. sometimes if you're really quiet though, and you stay still for a while, they won't notice you're there. I love cockatoos the most, such beautiful fliers
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Sorry, what do you mean?
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this is so incredibly amazing. I already thought the previous one was amazing, but this one is just beautiful. I think you've done amazing with the frames there is not a single part that seems to be glitchy. I also think you've done great with the depth of the front wing and the wing on the background, you can clearly mention which one is front and which one is back. The background is amazing it really seems like a lightsource on it's own, you made the ligthest part really the lightest and that's something to be proud off.
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Thank you so much ^^ Funny that it's so specifically the background you admire, while that was by far the easiest part of it all. Also the only not-moving part.
Hey but, just a question. I'm experimenting a bit with run-cycles lately and since I still own you a request, would you maybe like having an animated icon?
Since you don't animate yourself. Although I can also imagine that you wouldn't want to go around wearing someone else's artwork.
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You're welcome, that's not what I wanted to make clear; I was mainly giving compliments about the magpie's animation, but whatever you've done great on both though.
Ooh yes that's actually a really great idea!!!
Btw. I don't mind having an icon not made by myself
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That's great ^^ Any preferences or should I just make something up?
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wow it's awesome! You caught the movement very well, it looks so realisic! Great job
How long did it take to make this animation? The details are amazing
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Thank you so much ^^
I'm not sure but it couldn't have been that long. +- three hours maybe
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wow, I'd guessed longer, you're really good with animations
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Oh really beautifl. I love your animations
I like the contrast between the background and the colours of the magpie.
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Thank you so much ^^
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OHMYGAWD I WANT IT MAGPIES ARE MY FAV ANIMAL
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YEEAH MINE TOO! They're awesome!!! 
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I just love them so much and everytime I see them I flip out and people are like wutt... O.o Lol
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Thank you so much ^^
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looks good
but only the yes.. You can see it's not edited
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Thanks
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Nah it doesn't really matter, you barely see the eyes in the small version anyways.
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eh true, in the small version it looks good
NO ONE SUSPECTS A THING
PAM PAM PAM!
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Super duper sneaky
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I love the feathers and all the colors! I think the colors really helps to set it apart from your other black bird, and I personally enjoy the flow of the tail.
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i think the tail coul be a bit stiffer, because real feathers are straighter. But if you were aiming for a more fantasy look, it siuts the animation really well!
And maybe the framerate should be faster
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DO you really think so! Great! I was actually going to add more frames, once I got the tail right that is
I did try it with a stiff tail, but despite looking more natural, it also looked more, well, stiff. So I think the final one will be at last somewhat flowy ^^
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It looks cool.
Maybe if the tail didn't move forward so much and it moved back a little more.
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Thanks
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Wow, that's beautiful!
The tail and its animation looks fine to me
I would make the animation of the magpie just a bit faster, I think this way his movement would look more natural.
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Thank you so much dear
I will make it faster eventually, once I've got the tail right I'll add more frames inbetween. Might take a while though...
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It looks much better now!
Good work, love your new Icon!
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Just saying this is lovely and amazing
I don't think the whole picture is bothersome. If you wanted to improve the tail, you could make sure that it feels more flow-y, like the tail having an additional curve towards other direction, if you get what I mean. Something which would heavily express the magpie's important property, the colorful tail.
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Thank you so much 
Hm, that's kind of hard XD some people think the tail is all right, some say it should be stiffer to make it realistic, and now you say it should be more flowy.
Haha, that's what's so terrible about animating, I suppose. Everyone can tell that there's something wrong, but how to fix it? No one's sure.
I think I'll give more flowy a try though, I definitely do like what that looks like
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I see the others have given you a palette of choices. That's kind.
Much will depend on what do you seek. Magpies do have stiff tails, so if they waved their tails in the nature, the tails wouldn't move a lot (I admit I didn't think of this until you replied). Even so, animations often skew much of the rules of realism in order to look better. Just think of any of the popular 2D animation shows, and you'd be hard-pressed to find complete realism.
Everything will always have "something wrong", and when you'll fix it, it becomes "worse" for the other one. Sometimes there are flaws which could be made better for everyone, but sometimes suggestions are more like opinions. Thus why developing an unique style you like is important, and not to listen to everyone.
Then of course, telling you how to fix something is much harder, as it requires some more skill. And even so, they may not always be right, so it's important to be critical while respectful. I suppose you could try to ask them for further clarification, like "what should I do to fix it in the way you mentioned"? Perhaps they'd be able to answer, and you'd get something practical.
I think the v.2 is better. Fast birds are awesome
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Yeah, I suppose real magpies indeed don't wag their tail like that. That might be a bit of dragon influence from my side, heh.
hm, but I don't like the look of non-moving parts in animations, and after all, this is art.
I wonder if asking for further clarification is going to help. For as far as I know non of my current watchers frequently animates (besides the occasional pixel art). Could just be me though.
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I believe your influences make sure you are drawing in the style you like to draw. So you are nevertheless aiming for the "correct direction", they way you want.
Ah, I see your point. Likely your thoughts are correct, as someone who has experience in animating (even just a little bit) is better able to instruct you over things in animation you do not yet know.
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It could be just me, but the animation of your old icon looks much more smooth. I do love magpies though. xD
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Thanks
Hmm, looking back I think more frames would have been nicer, I hope I can still put in some extra without making the file to big.
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